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You can use https://lemmyverse.net/ to check actual subscriber numbers.

Edit: Why YSK: New users of Lemmy can find the number low and think that a community is dead or inactive, when infact it might be a thriving place with a lot of activity.

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[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What's the reason to show local counts anyways? Is there more to it than a "because we can, and it was easy to implement"?

I'm curious if there are any reasons which I don't see, and doubtful they outweigh the caused unclarity.

Most people only care about total numbers, I suppose.

[–] epchris@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I want to preface this by saying that I really don't know anything about Lemmy, but I can see where subscriptions are managed by the subscribers servers in a federated situation: the community's server might not even know who is subscribed to it since the subscribers server might be responsible for pulling data.

But any individual subscribers server would know about other users on that server that are subscribed to that community

[–] SGG@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Main reason for showing accurate user counts across instances is to give an idea of how active the communities are at a glance.

People will probably think twice about joining a community with low numbers, and it normally also causes those communities to be harder to find in the first place.

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[–] Ansalong@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

This had me confused for a while and I eventually decided it had to be this. Glad to have it confirmed!!

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are you sure? I don't think so. It shows users with data on the instance. A one subscriber instance will still show hundreds or thousands depending on how much federated content there is.

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[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

tfw kbin communities aren't listed. rip.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Hmm the number I see on that page is lower than the number it shows me in the lemmy UI

feelsbadman?

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Good to know

[–] boots@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

New to Lemmy. I also found the stats confusing. I expected to see global community stats and for them to be synced between instances.

The current situation makes people think that Lemmy is basically empty 😅

[–] quinten@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In fact, the subscriber count on c/Games is on lemmy.world itself 8.67K and on lemmyverse.net 7.9K. What gives?

[–] bluejay@partizle.com 2 points 1 year ago

I actually ran into this while setting up this account. Made me triple check I was subbing to a community that was going to have any activity (first person from my instance to search it apparently)

[–] mac12m99@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's a good idea to sum these statistics, but not for all instances (as it will be super easy to hijack with fake instances). Admin should manually select instances they trust and get the subscribed count summed.

[–] _MoveSwiftly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hello there, and welcome to our community! I hope you like it in here.

Could you please include some body text as to why should people know this, and how would that help them? It’s our second rule. Thank you :)

[–] zinklog@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Oops my bad, I'll update the post

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Huh. I have 140-something showing as subscribed on c/cocktails and maybe 15 participating actively in a way I can see (commenting or posting) but it doesn't even exist in that lemmyverse link. Just an empty community called "cocktail" and a midwest social one.

[–] dimlo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Somehow decentralisation is bad and we need centralisation to make a thriving ecosystem

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