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The Southern Baptist Convention, a denomination that is often a bellwether for evangelical America, has expelled five churches from the convention this year over their appointment of women as pastors.​ The move to enforce a strict ban against women in church leadership comes as some evangelicals fear a liberal drift in their congregations and a departure from Scripture.​ ​


Ultraconservatives are moving to enforce the position that women should not lead churches. Before this year's convention in New Orleans, more than 2,000 male pastors and professors signed a letter supporting an amendment that would enforce that position.​ ​

Most people in the denomination have long believed that the office of head pastor should be reserved for men, based on their reading of the Bible. Those against the expulsions say their church's interpretation of the Bible had affirmed women's eligibility to lead.​ ​

It is not clear exactly how many women are pastors in the denomination; estimates range from dozens to nearly 2,000 when a range of pastoral positions other than senior pastor are included. The role of minister or pastor can have many meanings in different Christian settings; children's ministers, for example, are often women even in theologically conservative churches.​ ​

The crackdown comes at a moment when the country is broadly re-examining women's rights, a year after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. For Southern Baptists, it also comes as victims' advocates have pressed the denomination to take action after devastating reports of sexual abuse of women and children, and have been met with resistance from some men in the organization.​

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[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just started reading The Handmaid’s Tale (never saw the series). It’s too weird, too parallel. I might have to stop reading.

[–] ebike_enjoyer@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you haven’t already, and you like speculative fiction, check out Octavia Butler’s parable series. It focuses (a little) less on the Christianity aspects than Handmaid’s Tale, but it is equally accurate and terrifying (while offering some hope, thankfully).

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I will, thank you!

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I put it down for that reason. Good art can be uncomfortable, but christ it got too real and depressing.

[–] Exaggeration207@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Southern Baptists could ban male and female pastors, I would be so happy.

[–] msprout@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I feel like replacing Southern Baptist clergy with ChatGPT would be a step-up.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I would expect nothing less from these folks.

[–] whinestone_cowboy@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I grew up in a house with parents who always taught us equal rights for all. My mom avoided churches where women were banned from leadership positions and served as a leader in different capacities at different points in my life. One of my brothers ended up baptist for some reason and I can’t figure it out. He’s racist, homophobic, and a misogynist. Complete opposite of how we were raised. It’s so sad.

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