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[โ€“] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
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[โ€“] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Engineers designed these roads, not urbanist.

[โ€“] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Traffic engineering isn't a university program and we're still using studies from the 50's to dictate our traffic engineering. It's civil engineers in NA who are forced to follow outdated policy which maximizes for car traffic flow, regardless of body count or overall flow of poeple across all transit options. Generally, city planners are all for public transit and walkable and bike able cities but have to battle with politicians appealing to suburbanites with cars.

[โ€“] InputZero@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I don't understand why this is such a hard thing for people and government to understand. Your car isn't going to a place, you and the stuff you need to carry are. The car is just the means and there are many other means to do so, they just get a lot less attention and funding. Cars and traffic infrastructure have been subsidised for over a century now. Of course cars more developed, and of course we build our cities for cars, we're socializing cars.

Yes, there are many areas that have been developed so car focused that it's a necessity to own a car. People living in rural areas will always need personal cars. People in urban and suburban areas probably don't and should give up their personal vehicles so Farmer can keep theirs.

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[โ€“] quantenzitrone@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

all the mad car lovers in the comments lmao

[โ€“] Rayspekt@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Great meme and even better because its true.

Imagine getting driven everywhere and still choosing doing it on your own. These people need Steam Decks, I tell you.

[โ€“] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I love how people just come up with this shit with their knowledge of their local area. Any train here requires driving to, and does not come and go frequently, and takes longer. Our infra is terrible.

On the flip side, some places have awesome infra and I wish I had that. I'd prefer to pedal bike if I could. But where I'm at you're very likely to be killed without bike lanes or sidewalks, and it would take hours to get anywhere important - IE work.

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[โ€“] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

PLACES WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DRIVEN TO

Says who? Is there some natural law when the universe was created that said mankind are not allowed to drive?

YEARS OF BUILDING CAR INFRASTRUCTURE yet NO DECREASE IN OVERALL TRAVEL TIME

Ok you go and set off on foot on a 200km journey, and a car sets off at the same time to get to the same place, who will get there first?

Want to go somewhere fast? We have a vehicle for that; It's called a "TRAIN"

Trains are great at moving people / goods between urban areas, but are awful (obviously) for point-to-point journeys. Want to the doctors fast? Can't exactly get on the the train directly outside your house to the front door of the doctors. I like trains, I use them where I can and always use them whenever I go into the office, but you cannot seriously suggest using trains to totally replace cars, it's so ridiculous that I'd swear you've never even seen one.

"i am DRIVING my...."

Not sure what's deranged about it? In fact that case is very valid as you're likely to have a lot of shopping (two weeks worth) that you'd really struggle to carry on public transport. It might have a bit more authenticity if you said it was just to get some bread and milk.


I get the sentiment, we should totally be trying to reduce our car usage and planning our urban environments to favour walking, cycling and public transport, but the fuckcars community on here are totally deranged. Your arguments look ridiculous and aren't going to convince anyone.

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