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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have socialist policies here in the US. We just have fewer of them than other countries.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

I mean I already do, we have publicly funded services like firefighters and emergency medical care, the problem is the shit like that we don't do because sounding too socialist scares the boomers

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Yes.

Next question.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 10 points 1 year ago

So according to most people commenting here the spectrum of socialist countries goes something like this:

no socialism (USA) - some meaningless socialist policies but not real socialism (Europe) - absolutely nothing for a very long time - socialism (North Korea and China)

Nice...

Yep, in a second.

If I never again have to research which of my health providers are in or out of the insurance network for the coverage tied to my new job, or spend a full business week debugging a cascading collection of healthcare company bureaucratic and billing fuck-ups, or be nervous about layoffs making my health insurance exorbitantly expensive, it’ll be too fucking soon.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If I was given a chance to emigrate to Finland, I would jump at the chance. I might be willing to emigrate to Norway. Possibly Czechia, Slovakia, or Hungary.

I'm very much a pro-2A kind of anarchist/libertarian socialist; there are not many countries that preserve the individual right to keep and bear arms while also having state-level socialist policies.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

A country having socialist policies would not be a primary reason. It would be whether this hypothetical country's socialist policies translate to a better life for myself and my family.

I'm a Canadian, but if I had to pick another country to live in it'd be one of the Scandinavian countries. They always top the global charts on happiest and healthiest people and that's almost exclusively due to governments providing very generous social programs. I wouldn't even have to adjust to the cold weather! The hardest part would be learning how to pronounce things like tjugosju

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want to leave my family, my community or the places I live near that I love. But if I could trade out my government for Iceland's or Norway's, I would in a heart beat.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In a heartbeat.

But not just any country. I don't like cold weather.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes cuddling more fun but Im also from Minnesota so take my bias with a grain of leftse

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[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely. There is no hope or faith in me for settler-descent Americans; I literally think it's more likely I die at the hands of a cop in this country than any other possible way. If I knew I'd never have to worry about the exorbitant exit tax, and knew I had a paying job and comfortable shelter on the other side, I'd go as far as to learn the lingua franca and never think about America again other than to "damn, I'm fuckin glad I got out of there before this NEW SHIT happened."

But since the job market is a fraud in and of itself, techbros are by-and-large sociopathic ghouls, there isn't a such thing as a boss that doesn't steal enough of one's paycheck week to week to make flight from America impossible, and most actually-existing socialist nations have lists of pre-existing conditions they don't admit; that's outside of my means, and ultimately an idealist waste.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like leaving would be an admission that things cannot change, that the fight is not worth fighting. I find that kind of mindset is not good, one must always be ready to stand for what they believe to be right or can they truly say they believe in it?

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[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Emigrating from the US was the best decision of my life

[–] joeyv120@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

No. I would stay here to work toward improving social programs in the U.S.

If it was someplace in Europe, absolutely. I would have zero qualms about ditching this dystopia. Sure, other places have their issues, but few are as bad the the US. With the far right takeover of the Supreme Court, it won't be very long until the "land of the free" is no freer than Russia or China.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, Denmark sounds nice. Before they decided to start genociding the disabled I'd have gone with Canada.

[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is this because of the three times a nurse suggested MAID at a bad time or is Canada actually doing something

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