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Can't run Windows 11? Don't want to? There are surprisingly legal options

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Too late (for me), but seeing how things are going, Windows 11 will probably be my last Windows that ever deal with. Will be moving to Linux.

[–] clashorcrashman@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

I used Linux for many years from 2005 to probably 2013 or so, and I liked it. I decided to go back a couple of years ago, and now I love it.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 24 points 11 hours ago (31 children)

Honestly I'm getting a bit tired of discussions about Windows getting hijacked by people almost aggressively pushing Linux as the go-to alternative. I'm sure Linux is good, but it often feels less like helpful advice and more like proselytizing. I think most users aren’t looking for a whole paradigm shift, they want improvements within the environment they already know, not a completely different system with its own learning curve and compromises.

[–] Mandelbrot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

100%, most normies won't survive a day on Linux.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

Honestly, I am getting a bit tired of Windows (which is pretty much adware garbage at this point) being the only mainstream OS for laptops and desktops.

I am also extremely tired of half-assed status quo defenders like you that always say, "people just aren't ready". This is clearly a disingenuous argument born out of ignorance and apathy.

Lemmy clearly has a Linux slant just as Reddit did before all the Winblows people did exactly what you are doing now. So respectfully get bent.

I find your comments particularly hollow on regards to UI changes as Microsoft is the most guilty party ever for changing the interface and forcing people to relearn everything (hello ribbon bar, Windows 8, Windows 11 lack of start bar configurations, and of course constantly changing where settings are located).

The only cult that is proselytizing is Windows bootlicking losers. The fact that Linux users are passionate about the superiority of owning your software and not giving your money and personal information to a corporation that will sell you out in a second is just common sense.

[–] jdnewmil@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Stick with Windows. Microft will deliver paradigm shifts and you will have no say in the matter. They are already removing options for disabling Copilot, and for all the promised backward compatibility they are letting go of features that lots of old Windows software depended on, as they introduce features similar to ones in Linux. I cannot really fault them for all of these changes, but the difference is actually one of choice and privacy, and not really the one you seem to think it is.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You're not going to get "improvements" in Windows, that should be clear by now. Crystal clear, I would think.

Linux IS good, and today, the "paradigm shift" is more like a gentle learning curve with people holding your hand every step.

I'm an old geezer who made the jump a year ago, it really isn't hard. Literally, the only thing I miss is the big preview window in the file manager. Big previews for all of the major formats is a big plus for Windows, but not one that kept me on their side.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

the only thing I miss is the big preview window in the file manager

I may be misinterpreting you, but I think this is a thing with Dolphin. It has a preview pane, which supports all the file types I commonly interact with (F11), which can be dragged to resize bigger or smaller.

I haven't used any preview thing on Windows, which is why I think I may be misunderstanding.

Anyways if you haven't tried Dolphin, maybe it has a solution for you (made by kde project, but I believe it should be installable for any desktop environment).

https://apps.kde.org/dolphin/

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 4 points 2 hours ago

Unfortunately if you take alternatives out of the running you're kind of just left with impotent rage against one of the biggest companies in the world and their shareholders.

Why would Microsoft ever care about some mildly upset users on Lemmy when they know said users are locked into their product for life?

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

My advice is to move your computing to an environment that opens options for you and responds to your wants and needs rather than an environment that treats you like a guinea pig to experiment on, or an actual pig to force-fed slop to.

You will never convince Microsoft that you're tired of their slop if you keep eating it.

Not saying changing OSes is easy, but it is easier than it's ever been, and the dividends have been worth it for me.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It's been this way for decades. They don't realise that by constantly bashing windows, they're not making Linux better, theyre just demonstrating what sort of bitter snobbery you'll be dealing with if you switch.

I use Arch btw.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I just want my games to work man. I have a huge library of weird and old games that I have spent years tinkering with to get them to run reliably on modern windows, I honestly cannot be arsed having to re-fix everything on Linux. WINE is not perfect and Proton doesn't support everything.

[–] Mandelbrot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Amen, games on Windows just work with no fuss.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago

Which games are concerns for you? Genuinely asking.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 11 points 10 hours ago

I'm been using Linux full time since 2004, and while I think it is good to let people know it is there, I don't recommend it to people I'm not willing to personally support. But, I also let them know I just can't help with Windows problems either, and they should address their complaints to their OS vendor.

I file Debian bugs if I have a problem with my OS, and have received fixes that way. This is better support that I ever received from MS during my first 2 decades of using MS OSes.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I switched to Mint last year. Had a few hiccups, but I have everything working just how I want it now.

Windows problem solved.

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