Don't visit unless it is a life or death situation. I wouldn't want to go into country that wants to finger print me, hand over social media, and copy my devices.
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It appears that these countries now have some form of warning associated with travelling to the USA:
- Australia
- Belgium
- Canada
- Denmark
- Finland
- Germany
- Ireland
- Netherlands
- New Zealand
- United Kingdom
Sure are a lot of 5eyes countries in that list. I'm pretty sure we don't have closer allies than that. Well aside from Russia now
Russia aren't allies with you, just your administration
I wish it were so easy. I'll be going there later this year because family. Ugh
You can always get a new family if you're not in prison
I'd make them come to me unless it was someone on their deathbed. A literal life or death scenario.
Wired is lost. If you dont offer up credible social media accounts or if you have a wiped phone, they probably wont let you in. These people still believe that the rules apply but they simply dont. There are no guarantees.
Am i fucked if i haven't posted on facebook since like 2014?
Make a fake account and just post random things so the government doesn't think your lame when they check your social media.
You can tell that to
Ryan Lackey has traveled to countries like Russia or China[;] he has taken certain precautions: Instead of his usual gear, the Seattle-based security researcher and chief security officer of a cryptocurrency insurance firm brings a locked-down Chromebook and an iPhone that's set up to sync with a separate, nonsensitive Apple account. He wipes both before every trip and loads only the minimum data he'll need. Lackey has gone so far as to keep separate travel sets for each country, so that he can forensically analyze the devices when he gets home to check for signs of each country's tampering.
Now, Lackey says, the countries that warrant that paranoid approach to travel might include not just Russia and China but also the United States
Thats what he wrote right after your quote, implying that he hasnt tested it. Also this level of paranoia was always justified for US travel and he surely knows that. The thing is that the US is now probably worse than Russia or China when it comes to the chance for random people to be arrested. For political activists its probably equally likely but the survival chance in the US is still higher.
A fucking Chromebook lmao
I mean it is quite locked down and something cheap enough for the nonce.
Pretty funny in the US context tho, I'd imagine it wouldn't be too hard for them to get google to "help"
The purpose isn't to keep them out of your devices. The purpose is to have none of your critical data on it when they inevitably search/copy the data.
A Chromebook is really easy to wipe/reset and switch between accounts. Plus they're relatively cheap.
Until he gets detained by trumps border people.
Last time I travelled to the US, I brought my old phone. It had plenty of text messages, a few photos of family and nature, and nothing else. They didn't check it, but I guessed it would pass the "not a burner" vibe. Now I'm wondering, though, how people would react to me having no social media presence (other than Reddit at that time, which I accessed via browser). Not that I'm planning to travel to the US ever again, but I wonder whether there's a market for perfectly inoffensive fake social media accounts.
I'll actively try to avoid that. There's been a time in which I thought it could have been interesting to visit that country, but the time has passed.
It's so sad. We have a beautiful country and most people are very nice.
Got to be really deranged to vote for a candidate that ran on a platform of revenge and hate, and there's at the minimum 70 million of those types of Americans which outnumbers many individual countries. Americans suck and don't seem nice. Too many bad apples.
If you listen to the conservative messages closely, most of them are crafted in a way that sounds positive, not evil. Then what's evil and can't be shown any other way gets framed as the necessary evil to make those positive messages come to be.
The left goes very similar route, speaking of equality, freedom, love, and then coming up with something like "the world would be a better place if rich feared for their lives". Might be true, but it's the necessary evil/angry pushback again.
So, it's not that people on the right chose to be evil, they just grew with one set of convictions that portrays left as unwilling to see the truth or to accept the sacrifices necessary to make the place better overall (in their eyes). And, similarly, far left that wants to overthrow or radically change the system is seen by the right as a massive evil force willing to destroy the country that took centuries to build a system that led people to where they are now - in relative prosperity and peace.
That is not to say they are correct in their thinking - there are massive flaws in their logic - but when you're committed to a certain worldview, it's easy to ignore inconsistencies, blinded by the fear of other side destroying it all. This, unfortunately, is what left resorts to as well, while being objectively more true (as in scientifically backed), because in the crazy world of politics emotions go first and reason goes second. Most people never get to cautiously verify and scrutinize the talking points presented to them, after all.
And that's on them regardless of the reasons, since these are grown ups not children. This constant coddling and excuses for grown ups gets old, since there are people in the same environment who make the choice to not make the same decisions.
Recognizing the larger forces at play is important, but this movement of shifting away personal responsibility is also a detriment.
At this point, I just feel bad for them. Our education system failed them. These "deranged" people you are talking about are our friends, coworkers, and family who have been misled by a system that was built based on slavery. Keep your masses uneducated, and you can do what you want with them.
Some of them woke up before the election (a friend of mine from Arkansas), some were killed by Covid (my coworker from Texas), and some will learn what the unintended consequences are of voting against their best interest (my aunt that used to work for the federal government in Ohio).
But deranged, they are not. However, I do think Hillary was right. Some of them are deplorable, but I don’t know any deplorables.
I work blue collar. I know some.
What's your assessment? Lack of good education? Or something worse?
Peer pressure to conform, toxic masculinity, homophobia, dirty jokes and failure to grasp dark humor, society failing to train boys to mature into men, propaganda news, obsession with team sports, lack of good education, lack of mentorship, etc.
What's deplorable is the two party system that encourages loyalty over reason. Both parties are sick, but in very different ways, and the right is having a severe episode right now.
The solution isn't to try to convince everyone to vote for the lesser evil, but to show them how broken the system is and to demand an end to the two party system. That won't fix everything, but it should at least give people a better way to express their preferences.
This is why I'm seeking public office as an Independent. There is no way to fix it except to do it ourselves.
I may do the same. I've considered running to oppose my State Legislature reps, who usually run unopposed.
Education is not a good defense when you weren't given any different education than the rest. And it seems like an ideology that they choose even among those more educated and wealthier. This whole only poor uneducated fall for lies is misleading and passes off personal responsibility.
They are the ones who chose despite others not doing so. And even the worst people are capable of moments of kindness, but it doesn't change who they are at their core and what they choose to believe when they don't have to selectively filter themselves.
And feel bad for them all you want. It doesn't change that people around the world are suffering because of their decisions that empowered the people in charge, since they believed they would be the exception.
Education systems across America are very different. Poor (including rural) districts have a very hard time getting decent funding and, therefore, good teachers.
I was fortunate to have a decent public education and parents who trusted the teachers. This is not the case across the board.
I just see excuses being made for grown up who are too old to be given the benefit of the doubt like they are toddlers.
I guess so, but recent news aren't exactly inspiring. I'm really sorry for you (and I say that from an EU country with shitty politicians as well).
I've never travel outside of Mexico before, but let's say, I do want to travel to a country that do not ask you for a visa, BUT, to get to that country my plane do need to make a stopover in the US. Do I do need visa just for that stopover in the US?
Not if you transfer directly to another plane, you only need a Visa if you go through passport control.
Most airports do it like this, but I've been to places hat need a transit visa just to get to your next flight. Odds are you are correct for a US connection.
Yeah it varies from one airport to another. It can also depends on layover time. In Hong Kong (on my way from Aus to Vietnam) I had to leave through customs to get to another part of the airport and enter through customs to get my connection. I was fingerprinted and facemapped both ways.
If I had been leaving via a gate closer to where I arrived, I wouldn't have had to do that.
Similar happened when connecting in Kuala Lumpur where the layover was 9 hours due to typhoon and the airline forced me to leave the airport, allegedly to go to a hotel they comped me, but I doubled back and snuck into a closed off area where someone forgot to lock out an elevator to sleep for a bit. They force you to leave the airport so there are fewer people just milling about for hours.
Why didn't you want to go to the hotel in KL? Were upu worried you wouldn't make your flight?
ship it to your hotel and travel with a burner til you reach your destination.