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[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you want BioShock? Cuz this is how you get BioShock

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

That shit still makes me angry and it’s fiction

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Not that I support it in any way of course, but he's not wrong. There's probably a lot of medical knowledge to be gained by seeing how the babies he experimented on develop in the future. It's just that the ends don't justify the means.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eh, usually less than you would expect. We're really good at math and are quite capable of making synthetic experiments where we find people who either require the procedure, or where it's been done incidentally and then inferring the results as though deliberate.

We can also develop a framework for showing benefit from the intervention, perform the intervention ethically, and then compare that to people who didn't get the intervention after the fact. With proper math you can construct the same confidence as a proper study without denying treatment or intentionally inflicting harm.

It's how we have evidence that tooth brushing is good for you. It would be unethical to do a study where we believe we're intentionally inflicting permeant dental damage to people by telling them not to brush for an extended period, but we can find people who don't and look at them.

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[–] spinne@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Protogen has entered the chat

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's actually pretty the whole premise of The Vital Abyss short story. Cortazar explains how he signed up with Protogen and how glad he was to get the nerve staple that removed all empathy from him. Ot, and all the other short stories are worth reading if you liked The Expanse

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[–] match@pawb.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

not that protogen unfortunately

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[–] europeanfan122@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago
[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Better build a research base on Mars where legal and ethical limitations don't exist. And IDK, start researching teleportation or something.

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[–] admin@polished-informally-tortoise.ngrok-free.app 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Testing testing. Running an example instance. Please ignore this OP :>

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Running a lemmy instance on a free ngrok tunnel lmao thats weird

Seriously tho, save some money and get yourself a domain and a static ip address. It will make things much easier

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