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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

My nephews (10 and 13) stayed with me a couple of weeks ago, and I got a chance to see them game. And yeah they are playing mostly Fortnite these days, but they love it. Further, it actually looks pretty intense. Like the editing and jockeying for a clean shot is more nuanced than what I was getting up to.

Like was my obsession with Quake 2 DM that much more elevated? True we had a lot more variety with mods and maps, but if I'm being honest most of my time was just spent running around Q2DM1/The Edge and a handful of other vanilla maps. I did love that Homer skin though, lol.

Anyway, I see them hooting and laughing and the whole time they're chatting with their little friends from school. I can see the joy in it. I wish it wasn't on this centralised, monetised, company platform. But I can see what they like in it.

E found it
low poly model of Homer Simpson grimacing while holding a shotgun

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fortnite gets a lot of hate but they've built something unique.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And then lock it up.

something unique, better even, something fun.

[–] xye@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

It’s the metaverse in practice but don’t let any reptile people know that

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In their defense, games starting from 2016 kinda stopped having any actually meaningful graphical upgrades.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I think that's the point they're making.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I’m not sure it’s about graphics. Fortnight was never king of graphics mountain. Its probably favored games in the consciousness. But i think millennials still apart of the Minecraft era

Ehhhh a PS5 game can look a lot better than a 2016 AAA

I'm not saying it's everything, and I'm not saying every meaningful upgrade is worthwhile, I'm just saying.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

My take from this meme is that Zoomers and later are more "captured" by a few big platforms than previous ones.

And perhaps earlier ones, too.

Like, my aunts and relatives are trapped on Facebook sharing Trumpy memes. Kids younger than me seems to be really into ultra-short videos or mobile-ish games. The only people I know that know how to use a desktop PC, beyond the bare minimum for work are… about my age? Other than a senior dev.

This is a huge generalization and small sample, but still. I'm not worried about other generations doing things I don’t like (that’s always true, and a good thing), I’m worried about them being more trapped.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My take from this meme is that Zoomers and later are more “captured” by a few big platforms than previous ones.

Steam games have been around for a lot longer than 10 years. So has Nintendo. There's no reason a Zoomer wouldn't have played Stardew Valley or Undertale or Mario Odyssey or Wii Tennis.

Like, my aunts and relatives are trapped on Facebook sharing Trumpy memes. Kids younger than me seems to be really into ultra-short videos or mobile-ish games. The only people I know that know how to use a desktop PC, beyond the bare minimum for work are… about my age?

I keep seeing this complaint. I'll never understand it. I definitely know family that have mired themselves in Facebook memes. But its silly to pretend my Blessed Lemmy-4chan-channel is materially better than their Barbaric Facebook-4chan-channel. Honestly, just amazed they finally came around on computers at all. So many of my parent's generation couldn't even check email twenty years ago.

Similarly, the Office Space Millennials seem to have completely forgotten that their non-technical peers exist. Like they've never met an auto mechanic or a plumber or a doctor their age who has struggled with using a computer. I used to do IT for a physicians clinic and it was the Medical Assistants doing all the office work. The RNs and MDs couldn't do shit. Which was ironic, because so much of the IT upgrade was about reducing staff size... but the MAs were the ones who grasped the tech the fastest while the actual medical staff avoided tech like the plague.

And sure, kids half your age don't know DOS commands because they don't use DOS. But there's no shortage of Zoomer/GenA computer geeks. I ran into a gaggle of robotics club Alphas in downtown, near the local convention center, just last week. Every year my office fills up with interns who built their own PCs and threw up their own home PLEX servers for their parents who are my age.

Some of you are just so damned cloistered, insisting the three 14 year olds you know aren't doing Angelina Jolie shit from Hackers in their basements before they're even old enough to drive. But pull down your reading glasses, squint a bit, and you'll see plenty of tech savvy folks younger than you.

[–] Downpour@programming.dev 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Real boomer energy. While graphics improvement flattened out, other things (that are more important) have continued improving.

Off the top of my head.. Zoomers got: Disco Elysium, The Outer Wilds, Undertale, and a million other indies.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 20 points 2 days ago

Most of these titles don't have mainstream appeal though. The example is true for the majority of players.

I do love me some indie games (probably 95% of what I play atm are Noita and Balatro) but I'll admit it was really cool as a child / teenager / young adult to see the improvements over time.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago

I mean, millennials also got those

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You missed the entire point of the post

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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

2 of those examples are 6 years old, and the other is turning 10 soon

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[–] Jc6666@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Minecraft for me lol, from age 9 to 20 (zoomer)

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 63 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah holy shit, we really went through eras playing games, theyve pretty much only ever known fortnite, like modern 18 year olds

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Nah, zoomers went through the whole indie horror game gauntlet, Minecraft, terraria, etc.

Edit Addendum: Also, don't forget about games like Friday Night Funkin and the plethora of mods that it spawned. The Five Nights at Freddy's fandom was basically a cult at some point and still memed. Cuphead was a big enough phenomenon to get it's own animated series. Stardew Valley is another game that will doubtless have influence beyond it's years. Motherfucking Undertale, sans memes, etc. VA-11 HALL-A was pretty popular for a while too. Don't forget about Among Us. Lethal Company is still getting updates. SCP Secret Laboratory is another one people forget about, but is still a game with a dedicated player base. Kenshi...oh man great game released in 2018. Fucking Persona 5 and Metaphor ReFantaszio, great games. MiSide is a new game, a horror game that doubtless has a small yet dedicated following. No Man's Sky is great, especially after they fixed it. Many Gen-Z doubtless remember Subnautica. Ultrakill is something that is quite special.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 21 points 3 days ago

Either only Fortnite, or a mix of that + Minecraft + Roblox.

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[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Gen X version:

Year 1: Pong

Year 5: PacMan

Year 10: Super Mario Brothers

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We got lied to so hard on cover art, it took decades to believe anything.

Adventure: Cover.

Adventure: Reality.

This site shows some top lies, and shows that Activision, didn't lie so much.

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[–] sfu@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

I started with Atari 2600 on a black and white TV. PS2 is the newest console I have. I'm still buying and playing PS2 games. Haven't seen a need to go any further (other than a couple games I'd like to play.)

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 days ago (8 children)

VR actually went through this from 2014-2024 or so. the original Oculus DK had such chonky pixels, very rudimentary tracking, game integration sucked, no hand controls. it rapidly got better to the point where playing Riven is like straight up being teleported into the world..

..except for like, being able to run around or touch things. so it's stayed niche.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I did 10 yrs of TF2. Better graphics might have come in that time, but I only noticed the phlogastinator.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Gen X version:

(Had to cheat and put an arcade game for 1980, because I'm not aware of any notable console games from that year. In reality the console games from then looked much, much worse than Pac-Man)

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Even as a millennial this is one of the first games I played (and I still love it). I dumped the ROM so I can play it forever.

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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I mean, they can still play the old games. My kiddo loved Kirby on the NES Classic

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 65 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The point of the meme is the experience of witnessing the unique rate of progress in game engines, not the variety. There's definitely more variety now than ever before, if you go looking for it l, and I say that as a 40 year old curmudgeon.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Exactly. Several limits were loosened or removed entirely. The SNES was the first console with actual pixel transparency, the PSX, despite being weaker than the Saturn and the N64, was the king of the 90s. The jump in graphical and sound quality was always night and day from the Atari era all the way to the PS3/360 era (sound probably peaked in the PS2 era, with DVD quality)

Even on the PC, the jump from 3 years' worth of advances was astonishing. Just compare the original Doom, 1993, with Quake, 1996

And here's Quake 3, 1999

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