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[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 34 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago

dont threaten me with a good time

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 8 hours ago

No, actually they've just finally admitted that they can't improve them any further because there's not enough training data in existence to squeeze any more demonizing returns out of.

[–] Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

So, did we win?

[–] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Over in the US, that's giving China the advantage in AI development. Won't happen.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago

It's it's like USA adopting China's IP laws.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 48 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The only way this would be ok is if openai was actually open. make the entire damn thing free and open source, and most of the complaints will go away.

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Truly open is the only way LLMs make sense.

They're using us and our content openly. The relationship should be reciprocal. Now, they need to somehow keep the servers running.

Perhaps a SETI like model?

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, make em non profit (or not for profit) and perfecly good with that. Also open source the model so I can run it on my own hardware if I want to.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Open AI kind of is a nonprofit. It's a nonprofit entity owned by a for profit entity, which is fucky and defeats the purpose, but that's an argument you'll see people make.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oops, oh well. I very much hope it's over, asshole.

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[–] psyspoop@lemm.ee 140 points 16 hours ago (20 children)

But I can't pirate copyrighted materials to "train" my own real intelligence.

[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

That's because the elites don't want you to think for yourself, and instead are designing tools that will tell you what to think.

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[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 30 points 12 hours ago

over it is then. Buh bye!

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 37 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Why does Sam have such a punchable face?

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago (8 children)
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[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 29 points 13 hours ago

Business that stole everyone's information to train a model complains that businesses can steal information to train models.

Yeah I'll pour one out for folks who promised to open-source their model and then backed out the moment the money appeared... Wankers.

[–] rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world 101 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

"We can't succeed without breaking the law. We can't succeed without operating unethically."

I'm so sick of this bullshit. They pretend to love a free market until it's not in their favor and then they ask us to bend over backwards for them.

Too many people think they're superior. Which is ironic, because they're also the ones asking for handouts and rule bending. If you were superior, you wouldn't need all the unethical things that you're asking for.

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[–] momodocho@lemmings.world 5 points 10 hours ago
[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 44 points 16 hours ago (10 children)

Copyrights should have never been extended longer than 5 years in the first place, either remove draconian copyright laws or outlaw LLM style models using copyrighted material, corpos can't have both.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I think copyright lasting 20 years or so is not unreasonable in our current society. I'd obviously love to live in a society where we could get away with lower. As a compromise, I'd like to see compulsory licensing applied to all written work. (E.g., after n years, anyone can use it if they pay royalties and you can't stop them; the amount of royalties gradually decreases until it's in the public domain.)

[–] Rainbowsaurus@lemm.ee 29 points 15 hours ago (12 children)

Bro, what? Some books take more than 5 years to write and you want their authors to only have authorship of it for 5 years? Wtf. I have published books that are a dozen years old and I'm in my mid-30s. This is an insane take.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The one I thought was a good compromise was 14 years, with the option to file again for a single renewal for a second 14 years. That was the basic system in the US for quite a while, and it has the benefit of being a good fit for the human life span--it means that the stuff that was popular with our parents when we were kids, i.e. the cultural milieu in which we were raised, would be public domain by the time we were adults, and we'd be free to remix it and revisit it. It also covers the vast majority of the sales lifetime of a work, and makes preservation and archiving more generally feasible.

5 years may be an overcorrection, but I think very limited terms like that are closer to the right solution than our current system is.

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[–] Shadowfax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 hours ago

Send This comment To the top

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 58 points 17 hours ago

So pirating full works for commercial use suddenly is "fair use", or what? Lets see what e.g. Disney says about this.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 103 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Training that AI is absolutely fair use.

Selling that AI service that was trained on copyrighted material is absolutely not fair use.

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[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Slave owners might go broke after abolition? 😂

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 113 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

Fine by me. Can it be over today?

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[–] Daelsky@lemmy.ca 34 points 16 hours ago

Where are the copyright lawsuits by Nintendo and Disney when you need them lol

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago

Good.

Fuck Sam Altman's greed. Pay the fucking artists you're robbing.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 29 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So pirating full works suddenly is fair use, or what?

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What if we had taken the billions of dollars invested in AI and invested that into public education instead?

Imagine the return on investment of the information being used to train actual humans who can reason and don’t lie 60% of the time instead of using it to train a computer that is useless more than it is useful.

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[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 2 points 10 hours ago

Apparantly their trying to get Deepseek banned again, really doesn't like competition this guy.

[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

God forbid you offer to PAY for access to works that people create like everyone else has to. University students have to pay out the nose for their books that they "train" on, why can't billion dollar AI companies?

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