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[–] hertg@infosec.pub 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"A film like Wall-E exemplifies what Robert Pfaller has called 'interpassivity': the film performs our anti-capitalism for us, allowing us to continue to consume with impunity. The role of capitalist ideology is not to make an explicit case for something in the way that propaganda does, but to conceal the fact that the operations of capital do not depend on any sort of subjectively assumed belief. It is impossible to conceive of fascism or Stalinism without propaganda - capitalism can proceed perfectly well, in some ways better, without anyone making a case for it."

-- Capitalist Realism, Mark Fisher

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -5 points 1 day ago

Drag doesn't believe in money. What's capital gonna do about that?

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Infinite growth in a finite system is the definition of cancer. And like a cancer it will keep poisoning us, and must be cut out and eradicated.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 0 points 14 hours ago

Capitalism made a treatment for the cancer.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

When capitalism has commodified everything, then all ingrediences for a revolution can be bought.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If a system needs constant growth to survive it will eventually collapse.

Finally YOLO makes sense. Yes, capitalism indeed only lives once. It will have its lifetime, and then it will collapse and be done with. It will not come back, it will not be reborn.

[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (9 children)

How do you fight against it?

[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On a larger scale? Through organizing and engaging in communities, politics and unions. No one can stop it alone.

On a personal scale?
Stop consuming more than you need. Maintain what you already own. Don't buy it because it's better than what you have, if what you have is already good enough. Buy second hand when you can. Lend and loan with friends when it comes to seldomly used tools.

Buy maintainable stuff instead of the cheap copy that has no repairability (Think of the boots theory and don't get tricked into spending more in the long term just to spend less now).

And the hardest bit would be to stop comparing yourself and your life with that of those around you, I think that the rat race is the main driver of consumption together with all that wealth peacocking.

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[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

My personal take:
No thanks! is the most powerful thing you can say. Don't engage, stop buying endless toys and distractions, build a local community, hang out with real people in reality, share stuff and be kind. Maybe blow up a pipeline too.

Edit: I didn't see the comment below, it's much better!

depends on where you live

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[–] wiLD0@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

When you commodify all the people’s wants and needs, you commodify the people.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

Or, to look at it the other way round:

When you commodify people, you will commodify all their wants and needs.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

What are we to them capitalists but (wage) slaves?

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Oh i know so many people who are into vanity. Everything goes as long as there's no point in it.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

See how in the US we wait to potty train until 3,4,5 years old, while most other countries potty train earlier. Gotta sell those pull-ups!

[–] vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

What? No we don't.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who does that? Most kids are potty trained by 3

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

i see 18 months, not 3 years.

6 months is absurd. Do you have children?

0% at 4 years; so I’m curious where “3,4,5” came from.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

His claim was about the age at which potty training was successfully completed. Your chart is about the age at which potty training started. They're not comparable unless you provide some additional data about how long the training takes.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

4 & 5 from anecdotal data - friends/relatives in day care. Those are outliers but they do fit the trend.

Around 6 months is extremely common in places which use “elimination communication.” The article I linked described this.

I don’t have children but consider myself both an academic and personal stakeholder - ie, I’ve changed a fair amount of diapers and I have taught parents how to parent to reasonable success.

I personally was potty trained at 4 - as in, I have episodic memory of getting Pokémon stickers as a reward for shitting.

There’s been severe regression related to COVID too. The school district I worked at had to send out reminders to parents that potty training was a pre-requisite for preschool - and many parents put it off until the need to send the kid to school forces the issue.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

All is capital.

Capital is all.

[–] lennee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

someone read adorno

[–] CaJoasca_Baloon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

commodity production

[–] Tillman@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I’ve always believed that capitalism is the default state of human exchange and the opposite of capitalism which I define tersely as empathy at scale takes effort.

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

ROFL imagine thinking punk rock is striking against the system.

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