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[–] NovaOG@lemm.ee 75 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

All of DOGE "plans" seem like shit that was cooked up by immature teenagers and drug addled brains, because they are.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Elon and his team of ketamin demons

[–] EstonianGuy@lemm.ee 8 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly, thats an insult to demons.

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like Musk is using the Japanize "drying river"-model that's like starter lever shit in economics. Doing that on a society level is insanely stupid.

[–] NovaOG@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

He seems to go on these benders, that probably involve copious amounts of uppers, where he get these bright ideas. The fact that someone like that has control over our whole government and economy is scary.

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 25 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Musk's various ponzi schemes, up to the Artemis-killing SpaceX fiasco, were coming due. Trump provided the opportunity for him to pivot into government, by replacing it with his AI, gps with starlink, air traffic control with whatever he comes up with, etc etc etc, making himself even more too big to fail. The US government the latest offering on the ponzi|pyramid. Trump's ideology aligning with Musk's own true beliefs is a bonus.

It will severely weaken the US in direct measurable short and long-term ways, to the point it is a real disaster for the US. Those to blame are all those that never called him out throughout his rise. Not to mention those governments (Republican and Democrat) who fed him public money throughout the entire period.

Edit - Bezos's The Washington Post is apparently supporting him now. No surprise, they want an oligarchy. The Democrats are moving rightward, they are more or less happy with it too.

I guess it is some version of the land of the free home of the brave, but maybe it is the freedom to do what you want if you're rich, and have been brave enough to brazenly take everything and exploit everyone.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 15 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I will be the first to lean into the fact that over the next 5 years, workflow in every company will change dramatically. It's going to be like the shift from no one having email, to everyone doing business by email.

But you know what's a bad idea? Rawdogging that change in real time, on spec, with your human workflow staff out in the street, and your staff are politically-appointed children, all while things like critical infrastructure, healthcare, nukes, air traffic, and the military are your "in production" assets that might go down. All to try and be the guy that shoves his AI in the gap.

All governments moved to email slowly because, among other reasons, email is inherently insecure. Email use by governments, records laws, and encryption standards progressed together. None of those types of knock-ons are considered here.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 131 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

McDonald's couldn't even get AI to take drive-through orders properly. Musk wants it to run the government without even doing a test run first.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 33 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He's either

  • an incompetent moron who thinks AI eventually will be like in the movies, you just need to push throught its teething pains,
  • someone that tries to destroy the government and its services through weaponized incompetence, so they can be privatized,
  • both, because I saw way too many things in real life.
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 82 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

That's because he and his kind believe government is useless and can just be broken without losing anything important. From their point of view, government is just a thing that takes money from them and spends it on people who don't deserve to live because they're not asshole billionaire techbros. And it makes poor people's lives slightly less unpleasant by giving them money and services, which billionaires don't like because it makes the poor less desperate and exploitable.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 28 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's because he and his kind believe government is useless and can just be broken without losing anything important.

kinda like racks of servers that keep a social media site used by 100s of millions of users? the ones muskrat just yanked willy-nilly out of a data center and loaded onto uhauls? it took weeks for twitter to repair that damage.

[–] artificialfish@programming.dev 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mski@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It was around Sept 2023: https://futurism.com/elon-musk-moved-twitter-servers-himself

You can also just search: "Elon Musk Twitter server move" and the terms "Sacramento" or "Pocket Knife" might help.

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[–] TylerBourbon@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

And Elonia can't even get rockets to not explode.

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 10 hours ago

“Just test in prod” - Elongated Muskrat

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago

The government IS the test run.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 151 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Here's how you know it's not ready: AI hasn't replaced a single CEO.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 66 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Man, I want to be at that shareholder meeting; "how about we just don't have a CEO and pocket the savings?"

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Then they’ll replace the board with AI. Guess who will control the AI?

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 29 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I tried that recently on the Gemini 2.0 flash and it got it wildly wrong as well. Seems strange AI seems to struggle with it.

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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 32 points 13 hours ago

DOGE ~~Plan to Push AI Across the US Federal Government~~ is Wildly Dangerous.

Fixed that for you.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He's looking more and more like Kim Jong Un by the day..

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

I don't think even kim jong un looks as stupid as this guy on a regular basis.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 7 points 10 hours ago

I work with a team of very talented AI and ML folks. I think it works quite well in certain usecases. These are not they.

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago

I bet it conveniently comes with a contract for xai. By a complete coincidence and definitely not more criminal behavior.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

My grandpa loved shouting social security codes with their names, can you please do that while celebrating like he used to?

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

And ~~if~~ when the AI fails, buddy billionaires will be there to offer privatized alternative, for a fee of course.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ. Would someone just 80s arcade game kidnap him already and scare him aleady?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Do like the arcade machines and unplug 'em.

[–] ranslite@zonenranslite.de 11 points 13 hours ago
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 16 points 14 hours ago

They want this so they can blame the computer when it makes a bad decision which is actually just parroting what they want

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

Its also just like. Its not there yet.

It cant make a full wine glass.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago

Elon is the sort of person to (pay someone) to play universal paperclips and then wonder why they didn’t ask the AI to instead make money.

[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

its icetown all over again!

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Musk wishes he was half the man Ben Wyatt is!

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago

Does that make Trump literally Chris Traeger?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

The overall goal is to cut the agency’s budget by fifty percent. Shedd suggested using AI to analyze contracts for redundancies, root out fraud, and facilitate a reduction in the federal workforce by automating much of their work.

I am bullish on AI in the long run.

I am skeptical that given the state of affairs in 2025, you can reasonably automate half of the federal government, via AI or any other means.

I also don't think that the way to do this is to lay off half of the federal workforce and then, after the fact, see what can be automated. If you look at the private sector automating things, it tends to hedge its bets. Take self-service point-of-sale kiosks. We didn't just see companies simply lay off all cashiers. Instead, we saw them brought in as an option, then had the company look at what worked and what didn't work -- and some of those were really bad at first -- and then increase the rate of deployment once it had confidence in the solution and a handle on the issues that came with them.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but you and much of the business world have intelligence and strategy. Elon is the guy who thinks he can just pay some Chinese gamer to play a game for him, then pretend he did it himself; that's his version of "brilliant strategist."

It's no wonder he can't figure out how to automate anything safely or correctly, because he doesn't actually understand how to do anything himself, and he can't just pay some Chinese rando to do it for him.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I worked as a consultant for a long time. I learned that anyone who starts a question with "Why don't we just..." generally doesn't understand the problem.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

"Why don't we just..."

"All you need to do is..."

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You generally won't understand another person (and adversary especially) if you don't see how their actions perfectly make sense for them, and without conspiracies.

So - there is one matching variant, that Musk sincerely hates bureaucratic kinds of power, but not proprietary kinds of power. Replacing a bureaucrat with (some imagined good) AI in another assumption would be replacing a mediocre human with inherent lust for power with an unreliable automaton, but without lust for power. The good part here is that humans are unreliable too and working bureaucracies compensate for that.

The bad part is that for every failure a person should be responsible proportionally to their input. I'm not sure they'll do that, or I'm sure they won't.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That would make sense if corporate bureaucracy was not bureaucracy. But it is.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yes, but corporate bureaucracy is someone's property, so ultimately there is a responsible person, always.

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