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[–] bouh@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (15 children)

Biden is not responsible for what Trump is doing. He is responsible for letting it happen. He failed to fight maga during the 4 years he had all the powers to do it.

To be accurate, it is not a fault, it is a failure. His responsibility is on this failure, not anything else.

[–] PixelPinecone@lemmy.today 13 points 6 days ago

Damn… I’m going to keep “not a fault, it’s a failure” in my back pocket. I’ve never heard it put that way when discussing a screw up that wasn’t really someone’s fault (in this case Biden, but could be Dems or even situations not politics related)

I feel being critical without blaming unfairly is a huge part of my personality, and so this type of convo actually comes up kinda frequently in my life, since so many people struggle to see gray areas between right and wrong, at fault and not at fault.

But what you said is a perfect way to better ensure that the meaning doesn’t get lost to blaming, after which the conversation is usually a lost cause.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks this. Biden didn't open the door for Trump, but he did stand aside. Bernie would have shredded Trump ... but you know, apparently primaries are the devil.

the powers trump is using now is not actual presidential powers and I would not see it used by their guys or ours. congress is the one who could have stopped this. mainly back when trump was in office and going through with the impeachment.

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Is Biden also to blame for Trump's first 4 years? It's the people's fault! It's your damn fault too! The world is still waiting for riots and precautions of election manipulation etc. But nothing comes from you. Just peaceful protests while trump pisses in your faces.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm not a US citizen, so no, I'm not to blame. And if you ask me I'm happy for the downfall of the USA. But I'm sad for the victims that will happen because of fascism. And I'm sad that liberals would still rather blame leftists than admit their own failures.

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[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

No hut the DNC definitely is for sabotaging sanders and his supporters to ensure the neo liberal class dictatorship could continue and prevent any platform movement to the left that might vaguely resemble a new FDR presidency

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why do you keep perpetuating this lie. They did not sabotage him; he is/was unpopular. Get over it.

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Lmao. Thats the dumbest nonsense i have ever heard. Did you even read the DNC leaks or did you just ignore them because the neoliberal wall street puppets who’s lies you believe convinced you it was russian propaganda? 🤣 sanders consistently sold out massive arenas and is now campaigning against this fascist garbage administration and drawinng massive crowds in predominantly red maga loving counties.

In the iowa caucus sanders supporters outnumbered Clinton supporters 2 to 1 but the delegates were stolen and handed to clinton. In 2020 sanders was winning race after race then suddenly all the other candidates besides biden dropped out and all of a sudden the lame brained neo liberal Alzheimers patient Reaganite drug war supporter suddenly was winning.

I bet you believe the (un)democratic party is a left wing party when by the standards of the rest of the developed world they are a right leaning political party? There is no left party in the usa and both the dnc and rnc are funded by the same wall street military and prison industry profiteers.

The usa has exhibited 13 of 14 defining characteristics of fascism in both parties since before the reagan years. The only one of those 14 traits that those in power can claim plausible deniability in regards to is fraudulent elections. But it is illogical and dumb to believe that those in power who have allowed money corruption and cronyism to influence every other aspect of our political system would stop short at 93.93% of the way. In Germany their highest court has deemed electronic voting unconstitutional since it is impossible to differentiate between fraudulent results and legitimate ones for anyone who isnt a cyber security/ IT expert. But go ahead and naively believe in the sanctity of democracy and the ideals of “murican freedom and idealism in a nation where we spend more on imperialist warfare for profit and perpetuating a militarized police state on a racist war on drugs than we do ensuring the well being of the most vulnerable and marginalized citizens in our society.

Sanders was the strong candidate but the dnc lied and colluded with the corporate legacy news outlets owned by their donors to manipulate and manufacture the consent of the people and fed hs the lie that he would never win when he was the only candidate that could have defeated trump in a fair election. But since kennedy’s assassination the system has been organized to prevent any candidate from gaining power who would resemble FDR in any way whatsoever and do anything to undo the 5+ decades of awful conservative and neo liberal policies that have fleeced the working class and poor and turned the majority of Americans into low paid wage slaves conditioned to never critically examine their place in life and just keep on working for peanuts while rents continue to increase and wages perpetually stagnate to the point where over 50% of millennials will never own a home or have a retirement. But the democratic party wont even make this reality a part of their campaign platform because all that matters to them is appealing to the billionaire war lords who own them. But i guess as long as their boots and lies are palatable for you to swallow, bon appétit!

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[–] Tillman@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

Battered spouses rarely leave their spouse.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You expect me to believe trump can throw a punch?

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Yeah it should have been trump hitting the guy with a golf club

[–] Gewoonmoi@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Democrats are a cesspool themselves, but at least they don't flaunt screwing you over.

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[–] keropoktasen@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Inaction is also an action that may determine whose fault it is.

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