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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, whatever that update was, I probably installed it (assuming it's the same here in Japan).

Use pen & paper – Do you really need a printer?

I had to laugh at this. At least in my use case, it's printing out forms and documents that various levels of government needs and I am absolutely not talented enough to reproduce them by hand (also, my handwriting is not fantastic).

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I also need one. Our library will print documents for 5¢ per page. Once my Brother HL-2040 craps out, I guess I'll be going there.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 19 points 1 week ago

It looks like the latest firmware on their website for my old-ass black & white brother laser was released in 2019.

Hopefully that thing lasts another few decades on top of the ~15 years I’ve already had it, because it sounds like it’s the last printer I’m going to buy.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (10 children)

This kinda shit makes me glad I don't own a printer.

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Epson Ecotanks. Liquid ink in, prints out. There's nothing to lock out.

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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Summary for those who can't watch at the moment?

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago
[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

I've been saying that for a couple of years now. They started fucking with third party ink at least a year ago

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 week ago
[–] ninjaturtle@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Have to keep things offline and outdated nowadays 🫤 to prevent things like this happening.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly, that's not a terrible idea in general. Like, if you have an Internet-connected device, you have a hook onto your network that someone can exploit down the line, including -- as Rossman points out -- making it function differently than it did at the time of your purchase in ways that you may not like. And even if you trust the manufacturer, that doesn't mean that someone cannot acquire them and then exploit that hook.

Kind of a problem with apps and other software too. Even open-source software, like the xz attack -- the xz package itself was fine, but you had someone, probably a country, intentionally target and try to seize control of an open-source project to exploit the trust that the open-source project had built up. I understand that it's also been a concern with even browser extensions.

The right to push updates to an Internet-connected device, unfortunately, has value. And there are people who will try to figure out ways to take advantage of that.

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[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Old printers on ebay are going to be the new game, until we start seeing kickstarter flooded with new printer companies.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to agree, but has there ever been a case of the free market saving itself?

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[–] St0ner@lemmy.wtf 12 points 1 week ago

enshitification of technological things continues..

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Welp, I guess that pen plotter I built last year is going to be my full time printer

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Not sure if I got the update yet, but I'm banning my printer from accessing the internet right now.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 9 points 1 week ago

The last bid I reviewed for a new office recommended Brother printers (woot) but the color laser had toner lock-in. I recommended an alternative and the owner agreed.

Too bad these companies won't know about the products they don't sell because of this crap.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Glad I've got an Brother laser that has no network connectivity.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Strictly-speaking, in this case, it's not the ability to be network-connected that's at issue, but rather the ability to push updates to firmware.

I don't know what type of computer you have it connected to, but Linux has a system that will automatically update firmware on USB-attached devices if the attached Linux computer is Internet-connected.

$ sudo fwupdtool get-devices

Will show you a list of managed devices.

I'm sure that Windows and MacOS have comparable schemes.

On Linux, I'm sure that you can blacklist a device for updates.

I'd guess that it's possible to get one of those dedicated USB print servers. Those probably don't support updating firmware on an attached printer. I might have some questions as to how much I'd trust a no-name one of those on my network itself, but...

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