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Mozilla is already revising its new Firefox terms to clarify how it handles user data (www.theverge.com)
submitted 1 day ago by Xatolos@reddthat.com to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Overview:

  • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
  • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
  • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
  • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
  • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
  • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 hours ago

this is them rolling it back cause of the outcry, they don't want to admit it worked

[–] based_raven@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

What's the alternative for Android? Fuck Chrome I want to move off this shit onto something that actually gives half a shit about me.

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

Boy have i got a treat for you, Ironfox! the continuation of Mull

https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox

[–] limoncia@lemm.ee 9 points 4 hours ago

Fennec on F-Droid, which is Firefox fork

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Tor. Anything short is freely giving your data away. If you're looking for something that isn't based on Gecko or Chromium there is the DuckDuckGo browser, which is WebKit. I can't attest to how good their privacy policy is though as I have no idea.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 6 points 2 hours ago

Tor Browser doesn't include uBo (on Android at least) and their ad blocking is abysmal. Its great that no one can trace your IP but completely useless since it doesn't do anything to block trackers.

Anything short is freely giving your data away.

Misinformation.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 hours ago

IronFox

[–] LittleRatInALittleHat@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

A FOSS browser has and never will require collecting user data.

This should not happen at all.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 29 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Certain features certainly could be considered as doing that, such as:

  • Firefox sync
  • crash reporting
  • add-on store

I certainly want those. And then there are others that I don't want:

  • Pocket
  • telemetry
  • studies
  • AI

My understanding is that this change is primarily motivated by a recent law change in California that has a pretty broad definition of "selling user data" and this is less likely to be a fundamental change in how Mozilla operates. However, let's see what they come back with.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 39 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

Too late, I switched to Floorp.

Because of privacy stuff? No. Because of repeated drama? Yes.

I don't have time for this stuff. I don't have time to track every minute twist of the knife that Google's funding drives Mozilla to embark on.

I'm bored of using software and watching it go through "death by a thousand minor dramas"

So now I use a web browser that has a name so stupid I don't even recommend it to other people. Brilliant.

[–] LazyingHarderThanEver@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Truly an outstanding move

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The drama isn't exactly their fault. There are a lot of rich organizations that want them to cease to exist. Most 9f which want track you online and/or shove ads down your throat.

[–] dnzm@feddit.nl 10 points 5 hours ago

A fair amount of drama is exactly their fault. Mozilla chose to increase management pay and fire people, Mozilla chose to flirt with ai, Mozilla bought an ad firm, and so on. It's not like someone was holding a knife to their throat.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 hours ago

Floorp isn't recommended for its privacy features anyway, it's recommended by users for the amount of customization you can do. It's got some features that Firefox has that I don't want to do without.

[–] twoface@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

Even if the name sounds stupid, you should still recommend it to other people :D

Have been doing so for a few months and haven't had any negative feedback.

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[–] zecg@lemmy.world 70 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't sell your shit, I collected it and shared it to keep myself comercially viable.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 15 hours ago

Surprise Mechanics 🤗

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