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Brösche, 26, never made it to LA. She’s been in federal immigration custody since Jan. 25 — the day they tried to cross into the United States through the San Ysidro Port of Entry.

Brösche had her German passport, confirmation of her visa waiver to enter the country, along with a copy of her return ticket back to Berlin, Lofving said. A U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agent pulled Brösche aside for a secondary inspection.

She didn’t know it then, but it would be 25 days before Lofving would see her friend again. Brösche would spend that time in federal detention, where she remains, waiting for a deportation flight back to Berlin.

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[–] CumMagottySattanFart@lemmy.cafe 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

If the germans weren't pussies they would kick the yank out of rammstein real quick.

But hey, they are quite tempted by the far right themselves.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yes, we're tempted by the right, too. But ousting them now would do no good.

But Ramstein (only one m, unlike the band) - keep the USians there for a time, let's keep it as is for a time until it's time to make some kind of deal.

They might need it one day, so we keep it as a collateral.

All long term international agreements and security guarantees died on the weekend so we need tangible things to force our former allies - now those we have deals with - to ensure they behave.

The correct thing to do would be our foreign office to issue an official travel warning for the US. (Which would have some impact on tourism to the US)

Let's keep the big things for later, we WILL need them.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 141 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Lofving said the episode is particularly absurd because Brösche’s original return flight to Berlin was on Feb. 15 — nearly two weeks ago.

“Why are American taxpayers spending thousands of dollars detaining tourists who are perfectly willing to leave,” she said.

The average cost of detaining a noncitizen adult is $164 per day, according to an ICE memo. Based on that average, a month of detention costs taxpayers $4,900.

Fucking clownshow of an administration

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

It's not a clownshow of course, things usually make sense when costing this much money, and of course they don't stop making sense when costing billions.

Making sense is not the same as helping goodwilling humanity.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 256 points 1 day ago (4 children)

And this is just a story that made the news out of sheer luck. Imagine how many more innocent people are locked up or worse.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not sheer luck, but because she's german. Germans haven't been mass migrating to America since the 60s at the latest and her detention is a change from the norm of us mostly only doing this to Latin Americans, Caribbean folks, Middle Easterners, and Africans

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

So Eastern Europe is not in the list? Just askin

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I have no idea. We don't get enough of you for it to be a thing we really talk about

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

It's certainly notable because of that, but her Germanity isn't what led people to finally locate her - what the article outlined was a series of fortunate events.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 84 points 1 day ago

Imagine how many American citizens are sitting in these camps and will be deported to some other country as Trump tries to eliminate due process and rob them of their day in court.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (5 children)

In Norwegian, live in Denmark and work for a Danish company, who also operates in the US. If my manager were to say, it ask, if I can go to the US office for work, I'll say no unless I get a really fucking good life insurance while I'm there. I don't want to go to the US for whatever reason.

[–] NewDay@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Nordic countries > EU countries + Switzerland > Oceania > rest. Unfortunately, I have to admit it as a German.

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[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The very idea they didn't just turn her around proves how evil these fucks can be.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago

Maybe they just forgot

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 105 points 1 day ago (5 children)

CBP agents at the border accused Brösche of planning to violate the terms of the visa waiver program by intending to work as a tattoo artist during her trip to LA

Oh wow, a visiting artist might come do some art, fucking arrest her!

Jesus fucking christ the sociopathic cowards running these ABC agencies are dumber than shit

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 120 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Add tourism to another industry Trump is helping out.

And she remains waiting for a deportation flight back to Berlin, when she already had her own return ticket? Which she would have used already by now and been gone??? God these people are so fucking stupid.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

I have to admit: I just crossed the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone Park off my bucket list whilst reading this story.

The police firearm homicides always felt a bit iffy but this clinches it. Definitely not going to try to visit that country. It's not a risk I'm willing to run.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

... another industry Trump is helping stamp out.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You'd have to be downright r-worded today to want to visit USA. Not this woman, I mean every one who comes after her.

[–] CumMagottySattanFart@lemmy.cafe 4 points 20 hours ago

I would go. But i'm not crossing the border legally lmao no fucking way.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (4 children)

As an American, I would recommend that folk reconsider travel to the US during the current administration. There are no longer checks and balances and it’s a very dangerous place at the moment. They’re removing all accountability for the border patrol and any immigration adjacent services so they can now do whatever they want. You’re at the complete mercy of the immigration service and they have full latitude to do whatever they want (legal or illegal) as the threat of repercussions have been removed. Be safe out there.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

While this is true, people travel to Dubai and to Thailand and to Egypt (maybe not much recently) and, well, to Turkey.

Accountability and checks and balances in countries listed are such that the former two are technically absolute monarchies, so in that regard worse in skeleton than England after Magna Carta.

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[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And these police that have you at their mercy are pm selected for being dumb, and anyone who wants the job just wants the power to harm people. Also they get like two days of training before being given a badge and a gun. When they abuse their power, even when they murder people, they have next to zero accountability.

Don't come here. Most of Central America is fantastically beautiful, welcoming, and safe. From what I understand Canada is as well (I'm not allowed in the country) but it's cold there much of the year.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My university sent out travel warning announcements about the US to all students and staff through email and matrix last week. Basically warning everyone, especially queer people, that you should expect complications or unjust treatment when traveling to the US. Kinda crazy that some german university takes this more serious than the US democrats take the end of their democracy.

[–] CumMagottySattanFart@lemmy.cafe -1 points 20 hours ago

Thanks. The US is the last place I wanted to go anyway, I don't want to support genociders.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. I have friends who are wanting to come to the US. "It couldn't happen to me, I'm white" they say. "I'm from Europe, I'll be safe" they say.

No.

It'll happen to them, and I'm scared because they refuse to listen.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Send them a link to this story.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What a horrible situation for the artists and all those detainees..Seems random people have been detained and held way too long, without legal reasons.

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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

She didn't even do anything. They just took her aside because they thought she might use her time to work in the US. What the fuck is wrong with those people?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Give people power without accountability and this is what happens. Every single time. That's what the rule of law is about and that's why fascists hate it so much.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Commenting to emphasize this.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

I bet she's attractive to the people who detained her. Why would they separate her from her friend.

[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would not even fly to the USA right now, if I would get paid to do so. This country turned from one of the most attractive targets into a total shithole within weeks.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

The US stopped being an attractive target to me the moment they fucked over Iraq.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

to be fair, it was not an attractive target before either for a long tim, independently of the president. CBP and ICE were bad people for a very long time now, and that's not even the only problem

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I've visited the US a couple of times for work.

I've been very careful with my wording when they've asked if I'm there to work.

Yes, I'm there for work. I'm employed in the EU, and I'm just there representing my employer at a fair or technical meeting. I'll be gone in a few days.

My colleague didn't have the same way with his words, but back then they'd just put you on the next plane back.

Yeah, I've been to the US for work-related training and it's the same. You must emphasize that you will not be working as an employee while you're there, or they assume that you are.

[–] ik5pvx@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

"business" used to be the right way to describe it . Then if asked you'd elaborate.

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[–] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sue Sue Sue. Take them all down and take them over the coals for every cent you can get.

[–] Applejuicy@feddit.nl 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't want to be mean, but I think it's a bit naive that a German citizen would be able to sue the US gov with the current checks and balances

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

What checks and balances?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Sueing everything and everybody is such an American thing to do.

She'll be glad to get the fuck out of that shithole and never look back.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

It's the goddamn plot of Mexican Joker from South Park happening in real time

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