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After a tense Oval Office encounter with Donald Trump and JD Vance, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy received a warm UK welcome, including an official audience with King Charles at Sandringham.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer convened a defence summit with European and NATO allies to reaffirm solidarity with Ukraine, discuss unlocking frozen Russian assets, and counter the rift caused by Trump’s accusations of Zelenskyy’s ingratitude.

European leaders fear the spat endangers Western unity and peace efforts and are vowing no negotiations on Ukraine without Ukrainian involvement.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago

These headlines man.... "After TRUMP white house meltdown"

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

“Keir Starmer will also host European heads of government and the leaders of Canada and Turkey at a special defence summit aimed at presenting a united front on the Ukraine crisis.”

So….a defence meeting with Great Britain, Europe, Turkey, and Canada without the US. This sounds an awful lot like a NATO meeting without the US.

Trump may not have to worry about leaving NATO. They may do it for him.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Thatstheplan.txt

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

King Charles steps into diplomacy; is this soft power or a risky political gamble?

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The royals meeting heads of state happens regularly no?

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but this meeting carries symbolic weight given the ongoing conflict and alliances.

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

They could play coy?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 109 points 1 day ago

"Sorry our kid turned out to be such a douche."

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 114 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The motivation now is for Europe to finance the entire war... to ensure Zelensky doesn't need to go back to the US.

Such disgrace. I've heard of "ugly Americans", but this is ridiculous.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean we had to get off the US' teats at some point, it's been 80 years. A pity that it had to happen like this, but we have to look forward and turn Europe into the beacon of democratic ideals that the US refuses to be anymore. It will be a hard and rocky road for sure, but we can come out the other side stronger and better in every way.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

Us practically made eu dependant on them for military protection

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[–] margaritox@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Yea, it’s a shame that the American people elected this clown to represent them. I’m really heartbroken they/we didn’t choose better.

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[–] takeda@lemm.ee 200 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Events from yesterday are sad, not just for Ukraine or even Europe, but they will also hurt US long term.

US right now is on the path of losing its dominance. All the soft power US is losing, China is stepping in. Russia also believes it can once again become a superpower hopefully EU get's its security seriously and won't let them.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s why they compromised trump.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Really tired of people saying "this is so bad for the US!"

Yea....no shit. That's literally the whole point of all these insane actions.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 39 points 1 day ago (28 children)

And I'm also getting a little tired of them expecting me to be sad that this is bad for the US. A lot of the "woe is me, the US is losing influence!" Sounds almost as whiny to the non-American audience as some of the MAGA stuff about the world not being "grateful" enough for them.

The US' international influence has been a mixed blessing for a long time. I'm kind of looking forward to seeing what Europe manages to put together as a replacement. Could be a step up.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 3 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, but this assumes that the EU will be able to get itself together and act. Right wing governments are on the rise and the biggest bloxk opposing them in the EU Parlament are the conservatives. Europe is not known for its fast and swift decision making. Everything takes ages over here.

I just don't see the EU acting in union enoth to be able to face the challenges "stepping up" brings with it.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

“Step up” are the exact words Europe needs to take to heart right now. Fuck the US. We’re the worst of everything everyone says about us and we don’t deserve a moment’s sympathy. I mean it’s been literally decades since the last time we pulled Europe’s security out of the fire for them. So show us what you can do without leaning on us.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's gone. The USA is a superpower only because of its allegiances. In the past week it's been demonstrated that the US no longer wishes to be a part of that arrangement.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Super powers in general should not exist.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 56 minutes ago

perhaps, but you’ve got to admit that we’ve been living in the most peaceful time in history. superpowers mean sure they get a lot of control, but they also provide a lot of security… it’s a shitty arrangement, but i’m not sure that the alternative is better: with lots of small powers, those countries tend to feel a lot more empowered to encroach on others’ territory

perhaps alliances help that, but i’d argue that kinda leads to a cold war situation where you get “spheres of influence” and that’s kinda like superpowers anyway, but you get a whole group of countries being drawn into conflicts that a belligerent ally starts

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In the same sense as cancer shouldn't exist, but that won't make it go away. We have to agree to keep them in check and somewhat sane. The USA lost all sanity.

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[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The BRICS partnership (Of which China is a key player) encompasses almost 50% of the world's population, and their Belt and Road initiative is a soft power wet dream.

The world has actually already become multipolar, but most Western media won't make that clear because they are still stuck in the old Colonial mindset of Captialist-Democracy = 100% civilized / Not-a-Capitalist-Democracy = 100% backwards.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Trump is just switching gears from the slow decline harder towards the Capitalist-Not-a-Democracy segment BRICS's most namesakes inhabit. He just doesn't bother to mask the racketeering into something like the Belt and Road

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 158 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't think Zelenskyy was humiliated, it was the US. He stood up for himself well. Trolling and bullying an ally isn't a good look.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I hardly think I’m in some piddling minority in thinking that my country is a fucking disgrace and Zelensky is a righteous man worthy of respect.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 7 hours ago

No most of you do but you don't organize so a foreign country has taken control and is dismantling the government

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

It’s interesting that conservative circles are lauding Trump for removing the US from wars in “matters that don’t concern us”. Their take, not mine.

And yet. All of this feels like a seismic shift prefacing going to war.

Even the first term I always had the sense Trump wanted to play with war toys. Akin to him acting like a little boy playing with toy truck when behind the wheel of a construction vehicle. Now he’s more erratic than ever before, and has the people around him willing to do his bidding.

And this is not an administration that would hesitate to draft people.

[–] oKtosiTe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a seismic shit

Despite the tone of this thread, this made me chuckle. Thank you.

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[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thank goodness, I'm embarrassed that the walking cheeto would melt down like that while holding one of the most prestigious offices in my country, although unfortunately I'm not surprised by it. I'm glad Ukraine has other places it's leadership can turn too in this time of need. Sadly, I can only hope that the dark spector of mortality does it's work swiftly in the oval office and this geriatric orange is done for good sooner rather then later.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I hope the UK & EU get all of those tasty mineral rights and Trump get left holding nothing but his limp mushroom dick.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 28 points 1 day ago

I hope Ukraine keeps its mineral rights, and we all fund their war. We should be thanking them for kicking Russia in the cunt, not taking away their resources while they fight a war for the EU and NA.

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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This Jerking Dick Vanker is a piece of shit, can't even make a simple deal. He only had 1 job to do.

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