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[–] rainerloeten@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 23 points 22 hours ago

Getting rid of plastic straws, but not cups and lids was such a stupid thing. There are substitutes for cups, but they cost more, so they weren't a good option for greenwashing.

If you're already minimizing seafood intake because of the lead content, you're already minimizing your personal impact of fishing net use. What we need to do is legislate the use of hemp nets. Hemp was the primary net maternal before the oil industry put their weight behind making hemp illegal under the guise of "The War On Drugs!" and made plastic/nylon nets the default.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, one can just "drink like a real adult", like the ones said to me that now want the plastic straws back...

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 10 points 23 hours ago

That would be ideal, but each person has limited time and attention. Advocate for both, but put your efforts into figuring out how to change the thing with the larger impact.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

to be fair that was a regulator decision. they seem to have went for the low hanging fruit of something relatively easy to replace without impacting the bottom line.

not gonna save the world by a long shot, but its a better than nothing sort of deal im surprised they even bothered with in the first place.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My conspiracy theory is it was chosen to deliberately harm the optics of environmentalists. Something with minimal useful impact and maximum inconvenience would turn people against the whole idea of environmentally friendly alternatives.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

thats not something i do not shy away from. those fucks are that manipulative.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I see a lot of people who share your opinion. I used to work rehabbing sea turtles and EVERY turtle we received alive or dead had straws/bags in their gut. It might not seem super important but those products look more like jellyfish and turtles have poor eyesight.

The nets commercial fishing boats make the most plastic waste by a lot but declining a plastic straw and bringing your own bag to shop WILL save a life.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think it's also a product of the guy on the left likely has never used and will never use a fishing net. It's kind of like the tarrifs on Canada. America wasn't ever complaining that drugs were being trafficked over the the Canadian border but that is the reason they are giving for the tarrifs. The truth I see is one of the highest imports from Canada to the U.S. is Aluminum. Coke already stated if Aluminum costs go up, they will simply make more of their products in plastic bottles instead to keep their costs down. Those plastic bottles are made from petroleum which funds much of the GOP's campaigns. He is simply paying back oil executives by ensuring aluminum prices rise. Cokes profits stay the same, Oil companies profits go up. Where does the money come from? Working class Americans

As much as I'd like a valid reason to shit on the Republican government (and there are many), this is not one of them.

Borders arw closing because globalization is declining world-wide. That has to do with reduced growth and progress, and is not due to the whims of a politician. The borders have been closed before the 20th century; what makes you believe that "borders open" is an invariable and ultimate truth? If that were really so, why weren't global borders so open before the 20th century?

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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am all for minimizing/eliminating single use plastics. But when i get served a milkshake in a plastic mug, with a plastic lid, and a plastic spoon, but a paper straw because of "save the sea"...

i just wish we used our brains more.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What if dispenser machines had a pay by volume model? You bring your own thing, they fill it, and charge you by how much you use. Would probably need something added to measure flow and set prices, but it's not like a McDonalds built in the 70s is still using exactly the same machines they were back then.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Could just do it by weight. Put vessel under nozzle. Zero scale, and hold till weight determined for sale, hand to customer. Could likely even have software do it.

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[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Gas pump style soda fountains would be absolutely hilarious. Truly the peak of american culture.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you saw how much plastic is used to get that paper straw to you (logistics) you would just drink from the cup

Also paper cups are lined with plastic to stop the drink from running through it, metal cans are lined with plastic to prevent a metallic taste

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (35 children)

Just stop eating fish.

No need for nets.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (7 children)

stop eating all animals tbh.

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[–] TapatioOnEverythin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

No, that would inconvenience me. I would prefer to virtue signal. /s

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The worst thing about paper straws is seeing it poked through a plastic lid.

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Noticed the same thing, how can one be concerned about the plastic straws but not the cups? I almost thought that was the joke.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Cool thing is that here in Copenhagen a lot of privately owned places now also use cardboard lids. As someone who delivers food for a living, I'm also happy about the change because cardboard lids have far more fiction and don't pop off as easily when transporting.

[–] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-16529-0

It's more like at the first place, with 26% of the mass. Majority doesn't mean "half of".

Nevertheless, even if the fishing industry produced no plastic pollution, it would still destroy the ecosystems directly and indirectly (breaking the food chains by fishing tons of krill and small fish to feed the farms)

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Majority literally means the subset making up more than half of the set.

[–] sidelove@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, "plurality" is the generic word for a leading sum, "majority" absolutely does mean >50%.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 14 hours ago

nets serving their purpose long after EOL, except noone is being served.

I wish modern day electronics did as well and they could serve someone.

[–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago
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