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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you're just interested in moving text back and forth, you could use any end to end encrypted messaging app.

Signal, signal desktop

Session

Anything where you can pass text messages

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Signal's "Note to self" is an option.

[–] VelociCatTurd@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't allow iCloud on my Mac.

[–] VelociCatTurd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don’t have to use iCloud. I assume any major email will let you sync notes.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you mean in a similar fashion as Calendars and Contacts? Are you sure that's like a "NotesDav" and not just iCloud?

[–] mkwarman@lemmy.mkwarman.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have found that the Universal Clipboard works well for me

[–] investorsexchange@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, if you are logged in to iCloud and you copy text on your iPhone, you can paste it on your Mac. And vice versa.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I don't allow iCloud or iMessage on my Mac. They are just to problematic for me in that context.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does that require iCloud? I won't use iCloud on my Mac :(

[–] mkwarman@lemmy.mkwarman.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. It would be a security issue without iCloud, as there would be no way to prevent an unauthorized party from accessing clipboard contents

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can do Airplay/Screen mirrorin/AirDrop between like 4/5 different devices without iCloud, I don't think that's so much an issue if my analogy here is relevant to the points you raised

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Literally just use Signal. E2EE and open source

[–] randomTingler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not a user of Apple products. But KDE has developed a tool to share stuff locally.

https://kdeconnect.kde.org/download.html

The requirement is that both the devices should be in the same local network. Give it a try and provide your feedback.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I should check that one out. I've had success using Sync to sync other dynamic files that I need to keep up to date but again, it can be a little clunky and it mostly works at the file level rather than random bits of text that aren't even technically at the level of a file (I don't think?)

[–] randomTingler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You can share the clipboard. I always do it between mobile and Linux pc. I assume you can't keep the history of what you copied into the clipboard in Mac or iOS.

[–] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What security issues are you talking about? Universal Clipboard (via Handoff) operates over BLE locally. iCloud is used in part of the process to facilitate key exchange.

If the government/other actor is going through the effort of getting Apple to somehow disclose this key (assuming that it would even be possible) and lurk outside your window, you have bigger things to worry about.

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/handoff-security-secf78dbe639/web

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Edit: I need to read up and differentiate

  1. Universal clipboard
  2. Handoff
  3. Continuity
  4. anything else?

My mistake definitely for not trying to clarify these disparate terms beforehand. Thanks, I will try to do that

[–] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Read the link I provided. Apple documents the security mechanisms of how a lot of their services work. Universal Clipboard (and handoff) does not use iMessage.

You may find additional things documented here:

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/welcome/web

This whole area of their support site is well worth the read if you are concerned about security and privacy.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've read a lot of their whitepapery security stuff but my understanding and differentiation of terms like "Continuity", "Handoff", "Universal ______", "Airplay" vs "Screen Mirroring" etc needs revision and reconsolidation.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Full disclosure: i use AirPlay already so I might already be an ignorant hypocrite but I just can't seem to figure this out without y'all's help 😭

[–] YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t know if you count airdrop as continuity, but you could try that. Also, you should be able to iMessage yourself

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How fo you AirDrop just like highligted text?

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Highlight so that this menu comes up that allows you to cut, copy etc. Scroll to the right until β€œShare…” becomes available. Select that, then Airdrop

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think this might be the way

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Ding-ding-ding! This is the way, thank you!

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean by continuity issues?

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought Continuity was an iCloud thing, rather than a bluetooth thing. I have concerns about iCloud and iMessage but bluetooth I'm seemingly more comfortable with

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, Continuity is a piece of software. I thought you were describing like the state of text through time or something. lol

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Capitalization (and punctuation) saves lives hehe

[–] hotstove@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop asking the same question in the same sub.