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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 35 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Cool. I'm going out on a limb and saying Bluesky seems pretty based so far. I made an account when it was announced, and it's pretty cool. Nice app, seemingly good mission statement.

I don't want to dismiss something until it actually turns to shit. If it's good now, I'll use it now. When it turns to crap, I'll just jump off. I'll always have Lemmy and Mastodon as my mains, so I don't see the harm personally. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ Let's just hope it'll last for the scientists' sake.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Problem is it absolutely will turn when the Bluesky owners Jay Graber and Jack Dorsey decide it's time to cash in. The project started out as a way to start decentralizing twitter, but they never actually accomplished that goal.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 10 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Jack Dorsey has nothing to do with Bluesky

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Why is it a problem? If a tool is good now, I'll use it now.

I don't stop myself from buying a new axe just because it'll break eventually, you know what I mean?

Although obviously if there was an axe that never would break, I'd buy that! But maybe there are trade-offs. Maybe the never-breaking axe has a complicated handle or something. I don't know, I'm trying my best with the axe analogy to describe Bluesky vs Mastodon. πŸ˜… Hopefully it's clear enough!

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[–] smeg@infosec.pub 40 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

How many times can people keep making the same mistake without us concluding they're stupid? Closed corporate social networks ALWAYS go to shit. Enshitification is inevitable. And you'll have the sunk cost fallacy stopping them from leaving, until they all finally get fed up and switch again. Own your network - stop swapping.

[–] sm1dger@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

But we did leave and if (or when) it becomes enshitified, we will move again. We don't need an idealised platform, we just want something easy to use which doesn't (yet) have the baggage and culture of twiXer

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 10 hours ago

But we did leave...

...about a decade too late.

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[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Scientists should consult tech people about stuff like this just like we should consult scientists for science stuff. Unfortunately a lot of tech people also aren't conscious of this stuff either.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 121 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Good. Sucks that it took open fascism to get that to happen, but at least it happened.

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[–] hulfpa@lemmy.ml 85 points 18 hours ago (20 children)

Why are they selecting BlueSky over the Fediverse?

[–] Krompus@lemmy.world 141 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

BlueSky is specifically designed as a drop-in Twitter replacement, it’s an easy transition, and tons of Twitter users have been advertising it for a long time. The Fediverse is comparatively obscure.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 53 points 17 hours ago

also mainstream professionals are going to bluesky, like press and corp PR. big step towards critical mass.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 45 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I would assume the same reason anyone chooses it over the fediverse, because they want their content to be easily discoverable.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 60 points 18 hours ago (22 children)

The Fediverse experience starts with an unanswerable question: what server do you want to be on?

Most people will not have any way to answer that without knowing what the downstream impact will be. Mastodon people are working on smoothing that down, but it's still a pretty fraught question. And if half a given community ends up on one server and half on another, they get fragmented and conversations and followers fizzle out.

Bluesky wants to tell people they're not a single-node lock-in to avoid the Twitter effect, but it turns out that's their key advantage.

The only thing that will guarantee they don't end up like Twitter is if they revamp their corporate governance mechanisms, but they had to take VC money and haven't come up with a long-term revenue model, so it's not clear how they can avoid it.

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I don't understand why people ask this. Most people you talk to on Lemmy will say they don't want the userbase to grow much more than it has because with that growth comes the other problems that larger platforms like shitter and reddit have.

That's true by and large and we also don't have enough moderators here as is.

And for reasons I don't understand, people keep asking why mainstream media outlets, influencers, and other trusted accounts don't transition to the fediverse, as if they won't bring with them an influx of users (at least a fraction of which would be considered undesirable).

Why do you want them to come here? (As someone who would like to see Lemmy grow, I'm curious about how you think this will rollout and what the consequences will be). I would like to see Lemmy grow but I'm not sure all of that growth will have solely good follow-on effects.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

Presumably either because they've not heard of the Fediverse, because almost nobody has, and/or because they want people to actually see what they post.

[–] whatwhatwhatwhat@lemmy.world 34 points 18 hours ago

The fediverse just doesn’t have the audience nor ease of use to be the smart investment for most people, at least in the short term.

In the long term, I believe the fediverse would be the right move. However most people struggle to think long-term outside of their own fields, and scientists are not immune to this phenomenon.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 24 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

nothing makes me more skeptical than seeing the word "scientists" in a headline.

[–] TheEschatonSucks@sh.itjust.works 45 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

At least they weren’t baffled

[–] qisope@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Surely there was at least some kind of breakthrough

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 13 points 15 hours ago

perhaps a bafflethrough

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