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So I'm working on a server from home.

I do a cat /sys/class/net/eth0/operstate and it says unknown despite the interface being obviously up, since I'm SSH'ing into the box.

I try to explicitely set the interface up to force the status to say up with ip link set eth0 up. No joy, still unknown.

Hmm... maybe I should bring it down and back up.

So I do ip link set eth0 down and... I drive 15 miles to work to do the corresponding ip link set eth0 up

50 years using Unix and I'm still doing this... πŸ˜₯

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[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 103 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I knew a guy who did this and had to fly to Germany to fix it because he didn’t want to admit what he’d done.

[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

Lol; I've done this too. Thankfully not to anything important.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Use cockpit by Red Hat. It gives you a GUI to make networking changes*, and will check if the connection still works before making the change. If the connection doesn't work (like the ip addresses changed), it will undo the change and then warn you. You can then either force the change through or leave it be.

*via NetworkManager only.

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I've done this kind of thing remotely in screen with ifdown eth0 ; sleep 10 ; ifup eth0 ;

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a failsafe service for one of my servers, it pings the router and if it hasn't reached it once for an entire hour then it will reboot the server.

This won't save me from all mistakes but it will prevent firewall, link state, routing and a few other issues when I'm not present.

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 7 points 3 days ago

Until you block ICMP one day and then wonder why the server keeps rebooting...

(Been there. Done it)

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not SysAdmin but about a year into my first software engineer job I was working on the live DB in SQL without using BEGIN TRAN ROLLBACK TRAN.

Suffice to say I broke the whole system my making an UPDATE without a WHERE clause. Luckily we have regular backups but it was a lot of debugging with the boss before I realised it was me that caused the issue the client was reporting.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I formated an OS drive by mistake last night, thought it was my flash drive...

[–] vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Almost did the same last night on a device that has its internal drive (flash) mounted as mmc and the USB drive was sda

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

That entire scenario scares me lol

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I started to DBAN (wipe) my internal drive once instead of an attached drive. That was the last time I ran DBAN on a machine with any drives of value plugged in.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A decade and change ago, in a past life, I was tasked with switching SELinux to permissive mode on the majority of systems on our network (multiple hundreds, or we might have gotten above one thousand at that point, I don't recall exactly). This was to be done using Puppet. A large number of the systems, including most of our servers, had already been manually switched to permissive but it wasn't being enforced globally.

Unfortunately, at that point I was pretty familiar with Puppet but had only worked with SELinux a very few times. I did not correctly understand the syntax of the config file or setenforce and set the mode to ... Something incorrect. SELinux interpreted whatever that was as enforcing mode. I didn't realize what I had done wrong until we started getting alerts from throughout the network. Then I just about had a panic attack when I couldn't login to the systems and suddenly understood the problem.

Fortunately, it's necessary to reboot a system to switch SELinux from disabled to any other mode, so most customer facing systems were not impacted. Even more fortunately, this was done on a holiday, so very few customers were there to be inconvenienced by the servers becoming inaccessible. Even more fortunately, while I was unable to access the systems that were now in enforcing mode, the Puppet agent was apparently still running ... So I reversed my change in the manifest and, within half an hour, things were back to normal (after some service restarts and such).

When I finally did correctly make the change, I made sure to quintuple check the syntax and not rush through the testing process.

edit: While I could have done without the assault on my blood pressure at the time, it was an effective demonstration of our lack of readiness for enforcing mode.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is why IPMI is so important.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can also use Pi KVM to add a similar capability to non server grade hardware that doesn't have it. I did that for a workstation once.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thanks! Yea, it was a really fun project to make back before there were any real options. And I'm glad the PiKVM team could expand upon it.

Somewhere along the way I lost the "based on" credit, likely whenever they fully modernized the stack. I wasn't really keeping track, but did find it humorous when LTT said the creator complained someone based another project on them. I was like "Hmmmmmmm..." but just laughed because I didn't make it for it to stagnate like it had been with me.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Lol I've locked myself out of so many random cloud and remote instances like this that now I always make a sleep chain or a kill timer with tmux/screen.

Usually like:

./risky_dumb_script.sh ; sleep 30 ; ./undo.sh

Or

./risky_dumb.script.sh

Which starts with a 30 second sleep, and:

(tmux) sleep 300 ; kill PID

[–] iriyan@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I still prefer net-tools and use ifconfig eth0 up That ip mess I'd rather do without, and those funky UU device/interface names I wish them out of my system

By the way, what system/init/svc manager are you using? With 50y in your back, cron job to check if it is up and resetting it while you are away. You can always remotely cancel the cronjob ... but it will be a new mistake not the old one :)

I started on Irix and ultrix if you remember those, what would I know :)

[–] Float@startrek.website 24 points 3 days ago

Every network engineer must lock themselves out of a node at some point, it is a rite of passage.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I was on-call and half awake when I got paged about a cache server’s memcached being down for the third time that night. They’d all start to go down like dominoes if you weren’t fast enough at restarting the service, which could overwhelm the database and messaging tiers (baaaaad news to say the least). Two more had their daemon shit the bed while I was examining it. Often it was best to just kick it on all of them to rebalance things. It was… not a great design.

So I wrote a quick loop to ssh in and restart the service on each box in the tier to refresh them all just in case and hopefully stop the incessant pages. Well. In my bleary eyed state I set reboot in the variable instead of restart. Took out the whole cache tier (50+) and the web site. First and only time I did that but that definitely woke me up. Oddly enough the site ran better after that for months as my reboots uncovered an undiscovered problem.

[–] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A few months ago I accidentally dd'd ~3GiB to the beginning of one of the drives in a 4 drive array... That was fun to rebuild.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Your 4 drive raid5 array, right?

Right?!

I wish.

It was a bcachefs array with data replicas being a mix of 1,2 & 4 depending on what was most important, but thankfully I had the foresight to set metadata to be mirrored for all 4 drives.

I didn't get the good fortune of only having to do a resilver, but all I really had to do was fsck to remove references to non-existent nodes until the system would mount read-only, then back it up and rebuild it.

NixOS did save my bacon re: being able to get back to work on the same system by morning.

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Like 3 weeks ago on my (testing) server I accidentally DD'd a Linux ISO to the first drive in my storage array (I had some kind of jank manual "LVM" bullshit I set up with odd mountpoints to act as a NAS, do not recommend), no Timeshift, no Btrfs snapshot. It gave me the kick in the pants I needed to stop trying to use a macbook air with 6 external hard drives as a server though. Also gave me the kick in the pants I needed to stop using volatile naming conventions in my fstab.

[–] despotic_machine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Why don't you use chained commands, or better yet simply create an alias that chains down/up, then use the alias instead?

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 86 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Because I plain forgot I was remote. It's as simple and as stupid as that.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago

We've all been there. If you do this stuff for a living, you've done that way more than once.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago

At $DAYJOB, we're currently setting up basically a way to bridge an interface over the internet, so it transports everything that enters on an interface across the aether. Well, and you already guessed it, I accidentally configured it for eth0 and couldn't SSH in anymore.

Where it becomes fun, is that I actually was at work. I was setting it up on two raspis, which were connected to a router, everything placed right next to me. So, I figured, I'd just hook up another Ethernet cable, pick out the IP from the router's management interface and SSH in that way.
Except I couldn't reach the management interface anymore. Nothing in that network would respond.

Eventually, I saw that the router's activity lights were blinking like Christmas decoration. I'm guessing, I had built a loop and therefore something akin to a broadcast storm was overloading the router. Thankfully, the solution was then relatively straightforward, in that I had to unplug one of the raspis, SSH in via the second port, nuke our configuration and then repeat for the other raspi.

[–] MXX53@programming.dev 14 points 3 days ago

Good to know that in another 30 years, I will still be doing the dumb shit I've been doing for the last 20.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better, I did something just as infuriating a few years ago.

I had set up my home media server, and had finally moved it to my garage with just a power cable and ethernet cable plugged in. Everything was working perfectly, but I needed to check something with the network settings. Being quite new to Linux, I used a remote desktop tool to log in and do everything through a gui.

I accidentally clicked the wrong item in the menu and disconnected the network. I only had a spare ps/2 keyboard and mouse, and as the server was an old computer, it would crash if I plugged a ps/2 device in while it was running*.

The remote desktop stayed open but frozen, mocking me for my obvious mistake and lack of planning, with the remote mouse icon stuck in place on the disconnect menu.

*I can't remember if that was a ps/2 thing, or something specific to my server, but I didn't want to risk it

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

Old hardware used to get really upset before plug and play became common. I remember I was playing some old racing game with a joystick on a win95 box, and accidentally pulled the connector out, lost my entire game because the system flipped out.

[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Did this once on a router in a datacenter that was a flight away. Have remembered to set the reboot in future command since. As I typed the fatal command I remember part of my brain screaming not to hit enter as my finger approached the keyboard. πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If I understand, this is less a complaint about how UNIX works and more a story about the consequences of careless mistakes.

This is why we have KVMs I guess. Though not every server has one of those.

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[–] markstos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was scared to move the cloud for this reason. I was used to running to the server room and the KVM if things went south. If that was frozen, usually unplugging the server physically from the switch would get it calm down.

Now Amazon supports a direct console interface like KVM and you can virtually unplug virtual servers from their virtual servers too.

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