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ICE Agent Requirements - No Test Required (www.ice.gov)

submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by MuskyMelon@lemmy.world to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world

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Not the most stringent requirements to apply, which answers a lot of the subsequent behaviour.

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SALARY UPDATE:

ICE, like most federal agencies, utilizes the GS federal pay scale. Individuals working as ICE Agents begin at a pay grade that directly reflects their education and experience, although most new ICE agents begin at GS-5 which, as of 2012, was between $27,431 and $35,657.

GS-5: $27,431-$35,657
GS-6: $30,577-$39,748
GS-7: 33,979-$44,176
GS-8: $37,631-$48,917
GS-9: $41,563-$54,028

HSI special agents are usually offered at the GL-7 and GL-9 level.

To qualify at the GS-5 level and receive the equivalent salary, candidates must either possess a bachelor’s degree from an accredited college or university or at least 3 years of general experience.

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Aren't LEOs paid much better? To accept lower salaries, either you live the job or you can't find anything else.

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[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"U.S. citizenship Have a valid driver's license. Be eligible to carry a firearm. Previous experience in a primary (rigorous) law enforcement position. Successfully completed basic law enforcement training. For males born after 12/31/1959, Selective Service registration is required."

That's your qualifications. The fact that you have previous primary LEO experience is when you were tested.

ICE agents, from my understanding, aren't doing anything that other police aren't doing from a day to day tasks perspective so they don't require new testing/training.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 12 points 5 days ago

U.S. citizenship

Well, it would be a bit embarrassing if they were caught hiring illegals.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So no background checks on disciplinary issues or prior public complaints?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Im not in LEO. I just googled the qualifications. I would imagine they run some form of check to make sure everything is valid but IDK.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Be a shame if thousands of people applied and talked the Nazi talk, only to drag out the hiring process and make ridiculous demands in wage/benefits negotiation. Worst case scenario, they actually agree to the demands, you take the job, and sabotage their ops from the inside.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You have to be current LEO to join, so unlikely for them to be so minded.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Evidence shows it's not that unlikely

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In the subject of the salary, cops typically make 35-50k per year. Some make far more if they are in a big city.

Overtime and side jobs is where they make the big dollars. Quiet night that ends in a shootout or a bad car accident, overtime. Provide security for the high school, may be overtime or a side job. So you can be a first year officer and make over 100k if your base salary and overtime facilitates that.

Departments try to keep overtime in check, but the more crime means more billed time.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

It's like there's a financial incentive to have crime happen

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"moderate to arduous physical exertion involving walking and standing, use of firearms and exposure to inclement weather."

I wanted to join the Schutzstaffel but I don't think I can take such arduous physical exertion.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Upon further reading, it explains the arduous physical exertion is only the beating of POC, and other minorities.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Well when you put it that way...

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

The expectation that you will be using your firearm. Better be prepared to slaughter suspected illegals.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

Big surprise. I mean a subway employee gets more training becoming a sandwich artist. Cops and such are dumb as shit!

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No test because they are hiring current law enforcement. So an applicant would already have gone through police training and testing, how inadequate that may be.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That's the question. Is the training and testing adequate? Do they redo psych profiles on the candidates? Doesn't appear so.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Police Training is a constant thing. The academy just teaches you the basics, then you usually get paired with an experienced officer, and then you are on your own. There is some variations on that, but that is fairly common. There are additional classes they can go do for various aspects of the job.

You can see how systemic issues can develope and carry for far longer than department policy.

Psyche evals are not a meaningful way to screen police officers. Yes, you can catch the bad ones, but the worse ones can hide their problems well enough for their issues to fester.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Look at my update on the salaries. Much lower than LEOs. My point is that ICE may be made up of ex-LEOs that who can't be LEOs anymore for whatever reason.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I replied after the update.

That salary range is within reason of base pay for a LEO depending on location.

A dept near me had a job a few years ago with 50k starting rate, city of 60k outside of a major city. Go down south and the Podunk cop may only make 25k.

There are location dependant income incentives, so do not take ICE's base pay as being a terribly meaningful number.

Some of them definitely will be police that don't want to move counties or cities because of their bad behavior.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

ICE and police have the exact same requirements: be this administration's brown shirts and gestapo.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Gs-5 isn’t even minimum wage in half the country, and they want a bachelors degree?

Edit: wait, thirteen years ago? Who’s posting this crap?

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Gestapo job application right there. Guess I'm going to learn how the Resistance operated.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

These salary numbers are SO OLD. GS5 is like, 40k minimum?

The GS payscale is public data. GS is adjusted every year and each position is adjusted for the cost of living for the area. Each GS rank has "steps" which, most people start at step 1 and get raises based on yearly reviews

Here is the public listing for 2024: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2024/general-schedule

(Efit: this still isn't much money to become a traitor to your fellow man)

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

With the background check and the 6 months training I think it's more than enough for an agent