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    [–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

    Very dumb question, but I'm kinda new to Linux. Do I have to manually update that or does it just do it when I update packages and the like? I'm on Arch btw.

    [–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 72 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
    [–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    What's so funny? Like I said, I'm new to Linux.

    [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 61 points 2 weeks ago

    "I use Arch BTW" is a meme in the Linux community. It reflects the perceived urge of Arch users to boast about using it.

    Welcome to Linux :)

    [–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/btw-i-use-arch

    You may think you're new....but clearly you have the spirit of a Linux veteran.

    [–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    Then Arch is kind of a terrible choice for you. I use it (btw), but I've been using linux since 2008.

    The learning curve and constant need to troubleshoot things isn't great for beginners.

    EDIT: can someone explain why I'm getting downvoted? Isn't this common knowledge that Mint and other begginner-friendly distros that don't have complicated package managers and require less configuration and maintenance are better for someone who's just starting with Linux?

    I myself began with Ubuntu back in '08 but nowadays use both Arch and Mint.

    [–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    That's one of the reasons I chose arch. Because of the difficulty i can't take shortcuts or be lazy and have to actually learn. When I tried something like Pop_OS I definitely enjoyed it but didn't really learn anything because it was all done for me.

    [–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

    Well then that's a great approach and more power to you. Enjoy Linux!

    [–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Arch Linux can be a bit overwhelming for newbies when trying out for the first time. Hey if you are comfortable with it then so be it. But if you have tried other friendly distros before this you can get an understanding of different package managers, arch packages, AUR etc. And to answer the question if you installed KDE through pacman or AUR helper, then it will be updated automatically when you update other packages through it.

    [–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

    What are y'all doing that you need to troubleshoot constantly? My experience with arch is about the same as my experience with Debian.

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    [–] Senseless@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

    One of us! One of us!

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    It does it automatically.
    But make sure to read the Arch news before every update, especially when it's a lot of packages. Something big like a new KDE Release might require minor manual intervention.

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

    I'm more of an "update first, care later" type of person

    And it works great, 100% recommended to newbies

    Oh and make a separate home partition, just in case

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

    Live fast and die young 🀘

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    [–] omgitsaheadcrab@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    I've literally only read the news the 1 or 2 times there was a breaking change during an update. Blindly updating (non-AUR) has served me fine for over 10 years

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    [–] 97xBang@feddit.online 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    There's no way you're so new to Linux that you wouldn't know if that would update automatically yet you're running Arch btw. That's like saying, "Do I need to do oil changes on my car? I built my engine, btw."

    [–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago

    all you have to do to "run" arch is type out some lines from a YouTube video and press enter. With all the people saying "Arch! Arch!" at every corner it's totally understandable that someone would try it and still be confused on basic stuff.

    [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Nah, there's a bunch of people (even on Lemmy) that recommend Arch or Arch-derived distributions to newbies. Many mention they haven't used any other distro themselves.

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    Arch stereotype is over with archinstall and direct step by step tutorial. You don't need to know how new release get updated to install arch

    On linux, generally everything you install is through a centralized repository, you can think of it as an app store, arch is all entirely updated through pacman, pacman is just a command line way to interact with the app store.

    [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

    In general, almost everything you install with pacman will update when you do pacman -Syu (and restart, in case of kernel updates). The way packages work, all the files needed for a piece of software to function are installed from a package, and when you install a newer version, it removes all the files from the old version and puts in new ones. (Caveats apply to configuration files you can modify - those don't get replaced if you do)

    So after you update some software through pacman, it should be in an entirely clean state, just like if you just installed it. The main caveats apply to things like flatpak, which manage its own packages, and software like Steam and Discord, which have an additional auto-updater for some things that's storing files separately.

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    [–] pelya@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago

    It's called Plasma. Plaaaaaassssmmmaaaaaaaaa.

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Me who uses GNOME on Debian stable

    [–] generallynonsensical@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I've tried really hard to like GNOME, but god damn we don't get along. Debian 12 is solid AF though.

    [–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I have tried both kde and gnome many times and i can't stand either one. I'm forever stuck in cinnamon.

    somehow every distro that ships with kde has tons of big bugs that I can't figure out (probably related to my setup), and gnome feels like a tablet UI. cinnamon won't autosuspend but it's the smallest headache of these...

    [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

    Funny enough Cinnamon is Gnome 3 done right.

    And I agree gnome in general has its sore points, I'm just used to them.

    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I found that for me installing KDE Plasma on Mint is peak. I'm using it like this since the Mint 22 Beta.

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    [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I don't even know which version of GNOME I run anymore. I only notice when the GNOME devs remove some feature I used to use.

    [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, about the same. Honestly I'm in a state that I don't really care even. GNOME does everything that I need it to while being very invisible and out of the way and I love it

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    [–] lemming741@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    sudo apt install cool-package
    438 dependencies will need to download 1.4 gb ^C ^C ^C ^C ^C

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    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    That's right 5.27.12 is out. Ohhhhhh yeeeeeeeeaaaahhhh

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Someone uses Debian Stable...

    [–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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    [–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Where I live, we live life one KDE update at a time.

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    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago
    [–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 3 points 2 weeks ago

    I run krohnkite and klassy, but damn is it a fine default.

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