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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 235 points 2 weeks ago (150 children)

You did it "undecideds" and "both sides" people: You saved Palestine! /s

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 84 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

'but we had no choice' - dumbfuks

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 63 points 2 weeks ago (32 children)

I agree with you. To anyone who still pretends Trump and Kamala were equally terrible with regard to Palestine: Kamala vocally supported an end to the war* and a two-state solution**, a prevailing US diplomatic philosophy. Please watch what Trump said tonight— it is so much worse than that. He advocates for the full removal of Palestinian people from their homeland. 

*it is a genocide and not a war, I disagree with her. 

**a two-state solution is not adequate as long as Israel continues to act as it does currently. Free Palestine. I disagree with her.

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[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"The gang saves Palestine"

Cue sunny intro

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[–] regrub@lemmy.world 116 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Their strategy is to overwhelm the news cycle with distractions. Stay focused.

[–] aaron@lemm.ee 67 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

All, please read this article (NYT gift link) - this IS and has been the strategy. Blitzkrieg policy while distracting the "stupid" media with outrageous, ultimately meaningless distractions.

From the ever flatulent Steve Bannon: "All we have to do is flood the zone. Every day we hit them with three things. They’ll bite on one, and we’ll get all of our stuff done."

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

On what? It's all crazy. "We're going to invade Gaza" is just as insane as "we're going to put 18 year olds in charge of the Treasury", "eliminate the department of education" or "win the war on diversity".

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah people keep saying "this is just a distraction" to, like, very single story. So what are they distracting from? Please tell us, because all of it is fucking awful.

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[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 109 points 2 weeks ago (83 children)

Just a not even remotely friendly reminder that if you are American, eligible to vote and didn't vote for Kamala then you actively voted for this. Actively voted for genocide. If you didn't vote you're even fucking worse because at least the Republicans were willing to openly say what horrible people they are. You just don't care.

The United States is a failed country, a terrorist state and should be wrenched away from its people. You do not deserve to have a country that large with that much power when you are incapable of agreeing on a singular fucking thing. The United States should be forcibly broken up into at least 2, if not more, countries that can make up a trade bloc. This bullshit of getting everyone killed from coast to coast because of your pathetic patriotic ego of "wahhhhhhh but my countryyyyyyyyyy"

Fuck the United States.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I want to say I'm amazed at the shit fucking takes to justify awful choices that directly lead to a fascist overthrow in response to your comment. But these types love to justify their choices even though they directly lead to an open fascist takeover of our country because BoTh SiDeS bAd because they couldn't be bothered to engage in harm reduction and are ok with Gaza getting glassed and a probable trans genocide at home.

Fuck anyone who uses genocide to justify the situation where we now get more genocide, they never actually cared about it in the first place aside from talking points. Either that, or talk is more important than action. Either way, their opinions are meaningless to me as I help my trans homies survive.

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 75 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Panama, Greenland, Canada, Gaza, what else? The world?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

new zealand's underground movement to keep it off world maps about to pay off.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If only it weren't for those damned Hobbits.

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[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago

"It seems that there might finally be a temporary peace in gaza... wait, it's, it's, BY GOD IT'S THE US COMING FROM BEHIND WITH A STEEL CHAIR"

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Punk rock predicted this.

Propagandhi - Haille Sellasse Up Your Ass

"The West Bank, The Gaza Strip, soon will be parking lots for American tourists, and fascist cops"

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 53 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I'm starting to adjust to the Trump term and learn how not to be disappointed with these news stories - here's my one simple trick:

Expect news tomorrow to be worse than today, in ways you can't even imagine. Each day repeat this process, with new baseline lowered expectations from the day before. It's that easy!

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

the thing is, i expected 'bad'. we got 'worse' instead.

then i expected 'even worse', and we got 'what the fucking hell?' repeatedly.

and it's been downhill with no end in sight, since.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump is a real estate guy. That's why he wants Canada and Greenland: lots of undeveloped real estate. Never mind that the reason for this is given by being non-developable.

And now Gaza: he actually thinks that he just has to move a few million people somewhere, and turn it into his personal luxury resort.

Do you want another 9/11? That's how you get another 9/11.

[–] melvisntnormal@feddit.uk 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Its not shocking because he told us this plan last month.

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I recall reading months ago that Jared Kushner visited and was calling it prime beachfront property then. 🤷‍♂️

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] TetraVega@lemmings.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Trump doesn't speak for his citizens. "Trump" is the one who wants it

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Shock

To people who weren't paying attention probably

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Shock? I'm surprised Trump didn't start bombing it on day one.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago

"Shock", only people getting shocked are the centrist that arent far righters but actually believed in the shit they spread. But as always nobody learns from anything.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago
[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said the U.S. would take over the war-ravaged Gaza Strip and develop it economically

The scope of this statement is a shock, but the motivation that led to it, isn't. That said, I hate everything about this.

I'm not the first to bring this up, but it bears repeating. This is colonialism, plain and simple. That, in turn, is an outcome of unchecked capitalism. Practiced ideologically (i.e. as the guiding light in one's life), it holds up "exploitation at all costs" as a virtue. Second to that is "give your competition no quarter." Combined, that explains the current state of affairs.

We all may be used to thinking of colonialism as some thing that ended on one more more independence days in the last 300 years or so. In reality, the engines of commerce and industry that made that happen kept right on running. Since nation-state-sized real-estate deals like this don't come along very often anymore, these animals are quick to react and pounce before someone else figures out how to exploit the situation.

As an aside: the attitudes and values that enabled things like the US westward expansion, slavery, classism, eradication of indigenous peoples, environmental destruction in the pursuit of minerals, pollution and litter from energy extraction, etc., are still alive and well in the population. Being this kind of evil is insanely profitable under the right conditions, which confers an outsized advantage to reproduction and social influence. Which is to say that it's not the ideology of capitalism that propels these values to stay with us, but rather the other way around. It's as though those colonists with exploitation in their hearts are still very much with us, and that's something to keep an eye on.

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Keeping the shock and awe on himself while musk fucks off with wheelbarrows of money in the background?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago

and data. tons and tons of data, on everyone, siphoned off fed systems.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

It's not really a shock, Kushner has been talking about it for over a year.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I knew it will end up like this when protest non-voters said they won't vote for "Holocaust Harris"...

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[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I don't know bout y'all, but I certainly did not have "annex Gaza and turn it into a beach resort" on my 2025 Q1 bingo card.

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[–] Atin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I for one would love for him to go to Gaza.

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Not a shock. Maybe surprise that he specified Gaza, but not a shock.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Abstentionists be like "we did it! we saved Gaza!"

Abstentionists are dumbasses.

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