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All this new excitement with Lemmy and federation has got me thinking that maybe I should learn to run my own instance. What always comes up though is how email is the orginal federated technology.

I am looking at proxmox and see that is has a built in email server, so now I am wondering if it is time to role my own.

I stopped using gmail a long time ago, and right now I use ProtonMail, but I am super frustrated with the dumb limitation of only having a single account for the app. I get why they do it, and I am willing to pay, but it is pricey and I don't know if that is my best option. I guess it is worth it since ProtonVPN is included. It looks like they are expanding their suite.

Is it worth it? Can I make it secure? Is it stupid to run it off a local computer on my home network?

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[–] alvaro@social.graves.cl 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one I do, it is a pain and I understand why it is not worth for some people.

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[–] Tempiz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. It can’t really be self hosted anymore, as having a residential IP is a straight track to the spam folder. It can be done if you also pay for a mail relay service, but then what’s the point of self hosting when you need to rely on a cloud service anyways.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Some dreams are born dead.

[–] anders@rytter.me 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@DidacticDumbass
Yes I run my own mailserver. I have done it for the last 15 years or so.

I'm also running my own Friendica instance.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Could you share you solution? You don't have to! I am just curious how you do it since a lot of people seem to hate it, compared to self-hosting everything else.

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[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I run my own Mailserver on a vps with mailcow dockerized. Was a real pain to set up, even through it mostly works right now.

DNS stuff isn't just some A or AAAA records, also txt stuff reverse DNS and much more. As the others said, that's completely impossible with a regular ISP.

I'm on some dumb blacklist because my IP is obviously in the IP range of my hosting provider, and some lists generally block all vps ranges.

Now imagine the following: your bank wants to contact you and your primary mail is selfhosted, for some reason they block your IP (yes outgoing blocks, those idiots) and you don't get some real important mail. Or your server is down for maintenance, certificate issues, so on.

The best solution is most probably letting a professional email holster take care of your domain, for email at least. Protonmail offers that but the problem I have with them is that they don't allow a regular login through thunderbird, restricted to their own software.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, ProtonMail does that so it can force them to pay to be logged in to multiple accounts at once, which is really frustrating. I mean, the business model makes sense, but damn, I only got 2 email addresses, I don't know what I would do with 10.

[–] slashzero@hakbox.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I setup my own instance and went with the free mail tier on brevo.com. They allow 300 relays per 24 hour period on the free tier. Their email stats and tracking looks decent too.

Prior to that I had setup my own postfix server, and while it worked fine, emails to gmail accounts were not getting through.

[–] Thewanderer@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm using openbsd with dovcot, opensmtpd on a pi. I used mailhardener to get it scoring well. I've had no issues with it getting flagged.

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to do a setup where i use mailcow at home for receiving emails but Amazon ses SMTP for sending, it's possible? Looks like it is, but i didn't investigate it

[–] chewbakartik@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, it's possible, that's similar to my current setup. Mailcow in my homelab, but sending through a service called Postmark. It was better when Postmark had a credit based system, $1 for 1000 credits (sent emails). They've recently switched to a subscription model that is like $10-15 / mo. I find it works really well.

[–] zmhanham@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Infomaniak has pretty nice free email server options that you can link your domain to. They are a Switzerland based company which is known for having the best privacy laws around.

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