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[–] dx1@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Remember when abolishing TSA was an anti-Bush liberal cause - a defense of basic civil liberties against encroaching fascism? Now Trump says something negative about the TSA and the liberals reflexively jump to its defense.

Fuck Trump, fuck the TSA, and fuck anyone whose politics change with the weather.

[–] Carl@lemm.ee 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think this post is more about the "key aviation safety advisory committee" being gutted right before the worst air disaster in over a decade.

[–] umean2me@discuss.online 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't really see people defending TSA anywhere. I just see people pointing out that Trump thinks DEI initiatives are at fault, while simultaneously thinking that thinning out the workforce in a notoriously understaffed field will strengthen the workforce.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

I was about to clarify a few minutes ago, they were defending the TSA on reddit. "This is how you get 9/11" or something like that.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Yes I've seen a lot defending TSA on Instagram as well

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago

Half of reddit wasn't even born yet when we were bitching about the post 9/11 security theater

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Bin Laden said he did 9/11 to bring attention to the Palestinians suffering. So supporting zionism is how we got 9/11. About two and a half decades later we havent learned a single thing. If anything we care less about human lives all the time.

GOD DAMN DEI HIRES

Just look at this:

Rich people = Less than 10% of US population

US Cabinet = Rich people are basically all of them

God Damn DEI and the minority (Rich People) runing everything.

How did a DEMENTED OLD CONVICTED FELON became president?

Fucking woke AF

Go to a old people prison

jesus fucking christ

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 61 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

You will never convince me he is not Russia's boytoy here. Putin has got to be grinning his ass off right now

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Putin has other stuff to worry about. Other than enormous amount of troll all over the internet, he lost probably all the influence on the US.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

No, i think you're wrong. It has nothing to do with Russia. Rather,

Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall (TRPF) is at work and is causing wages to decline over time. This was predicted as far back as the 19th century, and it took a long time (longer than most people expected) to carry out, but now we're seeing the consequences.

Through the centuries, we (humanity) have seen multiple waves of development:

  • agricultural
  • industrial (heavy machines)
  • informational

Now, the last of these three big waves is coming to an end (rapid internet enshittification), humanity ceases to be able to give meaningful employment to the people. This is why we're seeing a rise in bullshit jobs and working poor - because wages are falling.

People like Trump held the belief for a long time that it was because people were getting "lazy and inefficient", and if they return to power, they're gonna kick everyone's ass, reduce avocado toasts, and get the economy flowing again. Truth is, however, and Trump will have to admit this, that the people's employment/economy is slowing down NOT because of lazyness, but because there's simply not much left to do for us humans here on earth. This is why we're going to see mass unemployments in the coming decades, and Trump's attempt at "efficiency" isn't going to solve things.


In my opinion, what we need now, is Universal Basic Income (UBI). It stabilizes society and gives people guarantees about their future. I am saddened that so many people seem to oppose it, but i think it would be a really good idea and we should work towards it.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 10 points 8 hours ago

I also tend to grin when I'm getting my dick sucked.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 110 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

I was reading the BBC live updates of the 'briefing' where Trump 'answered questions.' Starts at 17:21 if you scroll down.

Of course he blames it on DEI hires. He also blamed the helicopter and later said it was because of 'practicing.'

Why does he think it's DEI hires, you ask? Well, Trump answered, and I quote: "Because I have common sense, and unfortunately a lot of people don't."

What the actual fuck. Donald "I have common sense" fucking Trump. Lmfao.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Why does he think it’s DEI hires, you ask? Well, Trump answered, and I quote: “Because I have common sense, and unfortunately a lot of people don’t.”

God, I hate how many people think "common sense" is a legitimate argument.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 3 hours ago

Wait until you hear Salvini talking. He also sprinkles some "as a father" on it.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

While the claim is absolutely fucking insane, I will absolutely not be surprised if when the names are released we find out that one or more of the pilots flying were people of colour and it's just trump playing racist trump things.

I don't think it's the fault of any of the pilots regardless of their race, but I can fully see trump's pipeline of POC pilot = dei hire = plane crash as "common sense".

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 38 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

European politics is like a mirror at this point. A UK politician basically said virtually exactly the same thing, "I don't make mistakes", a few days ago, and then proceeded to make an absolute tit of themselves 24 hours later.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Anyone who ever says "I don't make mistakes" should immediately be distrusted.

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 15 points 14 hours ago
[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What an absolute lunatic, we should never let the GOP live this down. Rub this in their faces, ongoingly. Never forget! Never Let Up!

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 6 points 8 hours ago

You have to rub literal tons of cash into their face before you can rub their face into the mess they created. It also helps to be Russian. I don't know I'm just sayin'.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 85 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

You’ll be saying that from inside Gitmo if we don’t organize and fight back.

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 55 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

We don’t need the TSA or FAA for eggs. Chickens can fly.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Yeah but who’s gonna make sure only the right coloured cocks do the flying?

[–] errer@lemmy.world 34 points 16 hours ago (10 children)

I’m sorry but this is almost certainly unrelated to the crash. High level firings aren’t going to suddenly make air traffic controllers bad at their jobs a week later.

In a year if there’s a major airline disaster you can start pointing the finger at Trump.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, there's almost certainly no immediate connection. It's possible that ATC people or the pilots were distracted by the Trump chaos, but he took office 10 days ago, 10 days isn't enough for a real cause-and-effect relationship here.

Having said that, this is definitely a warning of what his terrible decisions could do. Hopefully there's enough of a backlash that he'll reverse himself.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

He was president 4 of the last 8 years. His party has been attacking the job security of air traffic controllers for about 4 decades.

His party led by him even when he wasn't in charge repeatedly shut down the government making essential workers work for free and threatened to do so.

They have been saying that they would basically fire and replace everyone for the last year.

He is the single largest barrier to any effort to retain and hire talent by the federal government since 2016.

None of this speak conclusively to cause which will require investigation but unlike DEI its an actual objective factor its just not as neat a package as this sound byte

[–] helloworld55@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

Also to add, this is hardly the first airplane crash in a while. There was even a near miss in Arizona just over 2 weeks ago https://people.com/united-and-delta-flights-nearly-collide-while-heading-to-phoenix-airport-8774470

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 81 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's not what juxtaposition means. It doesn't mean thing A is caused by thing B, it just means that thing A and thing B appearing next to each other produce an interesting association.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

@errer@lemmy.world this is an important distinction with this post. It's explicitly saying they are unrelated by saying it's a juxtaposition.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 53 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

You might can point the finger sooner, just not for the reason OP hints at. The helicopter was military, and there a closer link to Trump and his administration given that. I wouldn't jump to conclusions, but he is already blaming DEI, because of course he is.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I mean it was a Black Hawk, that seems like a DEI hire. /s

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Black Hawk Tuah is the cause of the crash!

(Also /s, of course)

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

There are layers to this comment.

[–] neatobuilds@lemmy.today 8 points 14 hours ago

An ogre of a thread

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 23 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

My brother works for the FAA. It's been fucked for a while now and Trump isn't gonna make it better. They are dangerously understaffed.

That being said, yeah this wasn't Trump's or the FAA's fault. The helicopter pilot was told to maintain visual separation with the landing plane and then didn't do so.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

I heard on NPR this morning that the ATC said “do you see the plane” without specifying which plane. There was another larger plane taking off at the same time. So could be partly ATC’s fault.

That being said nothing like this happens without multiple failures by multiple people.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah I feel like it's not really fair on the victims or the victims families to blame any one person at all. It's a tragedy for sure but it's not like anybody fucked up on purpose. It doesn't really help to lay blame on an individual, just figure out where the mistakes happened and amend the procedures so it hopefully doesn't happen again.

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[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 7 points 14 hours ago

Did they also receive the federal employee "buy out" email yesterday morning? I'd imagine that would induce a lot of unnecessary added stress.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 17 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Trump news conference is insane. "This is all DEI's fault". Any personnel that will have wrong race or gender despite their hiring date will be "all of their fault". Certainly anything that goes wrong in government in future, is that one black woman's fault, too.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago

Remember how LA’s lesbian fire chief who had like more than two decades of firefighting experience was a “DEI hire”? (She was in part hired to clean up a culture of sexual harassment and rape cover ups - which is what they really don’t like.)

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago

People need to remember this as they look for hope that people will suddenly turn on Trump. Rather than the right wing media politicizing shit, it comes straight from the president. The right wing dittoheads nod along and act like headless repeaters.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 13 hours ago

Reminds me of boondocks when they blame the "false" uncle ruckus test results on a black intern they didn't know about.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Hopefully this is his "fuck the TPP" Moment of the presidency where it makes everyone chill the fuck out with airport security theater.

A broken watch is right twice a day, that stupid netflix film is wrong, TSA are a bunch of assholes and always have been.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I remember flying into the US before 9/11 and it wasn't like you could just walk around with a bomb. They really don't achieve anything that wasn't already being done.

I get sort of why security theater happens but what I don't understand is why they seem pathologically incapable of giving coherent instructions or in fact holding on to things that they've just taken off you. "Oh you have an expensive camera that has been purposely engineered to be easy to hold" *proceeds to immediately drops it

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

yeah, some security is necessary , absolutely. Stop making me get undressed and fold and unfold a pram every six seconds. Don't make us dump every fucking fluid we have.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 22 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

I didn't hear about that, did he fire those people right before the crash?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 35 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They were fired about 9 days prior to the incident.

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