My laptop with arch was lying around untouched by 2 months and this shit happened too, after that i switched and daily drived opensuse tumbleweed for PCs and debian stable for servers for a year already
this post was submitted on 29 Jan 2025
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I once fully updated a Gentoo system that hadn't been touched in 4 years. That was an adventure in troubleshooting.
sudo reboot now???
sudo reboot now???
tl;dr: Yes... sudo reboot now.
from reboot docs:
[...] Otherwise this simply invokes the shutdown(8) tool with the appropriate arguments.
The shutdown command looks like this:
shutdown [OPTION]... TIME [MESSAGE] .
Anything passed into reboot will just get passed along to shutdown, including the time parameter.
TIME may have different formats, the most common is simply the word 'now' which will bring the system down immediately.
"now" is a valid time for shutdown so it reboots the system asap.
I'm sorry, is this some joke I'm too atomic to understand?
lughs in multiple installed kernels
Do y'all only have one kernel installed?
vmlinuz vmlinuz.old vmlinuz.old.old vmlinuz.old.old.old vmlinuz.borken
I'm sure one of these boots and has a Nvidia module that matches user space!
Yes. If I ever need something else because something unforeseen happened (which has not happened for years, and I use a non-default one), I can boot up from a live USB and fix things.
I use arch btw.
I also use Arch btw. I have an lts kernel installed just in case. Came in handy when the amdgpu driver was broken for a week. The screen was flashing on Wayland.
Which LTS kernel do you have installed? I'm shopping around
On Arch it's just linux-lts I think. 6.12 is the current version I believe. In any case, I only need to use it when something breaks which is rare.
Can't relate, arch testing never broke in years. Without manual maintenance.
If it where arch, but its manjaro. Somehow during the last kernel update the grub info was not changed to point to the current kernel names...still pointed at the old kernel....and that had been replaced. After figuring all that out in chroot, fix was as simple as changing a single line in that grub file
Yet another Majaro L? Not one to dunk on random distros, but I'll always make an exception for Manjaro
Manjarno never surprises -_-
The dangers of relying on a prebuilt system which is maintained ... lets just say not state of the art.
Also, would grub-hook be an option?
Grub-hook is what I use to prevent this exact situation.
GRUB-HOOK PACKAGE GIVES YOU STABILITY ON THE SYSTEM YOU LOVE
THE KINDA STABILITY THAT MAKES YOU BOOGY
*insert cringe dance*
Reminds me of that time I updated my UEFI firmware which automatically re-enabled secure boot which caused my Nvidia driver to fail to load on boot because Nvidia doesn't sign them so I was stuck with the noveau(spelling?) driver which would crash when I tried to log into my DE. What an adventure figuring that out was. Oh, and the cherry on top: updating the firmware didn't fix the initial issue I was troubleshooting.
I know this is a day old and most people who would have seen this already have moved on, but this is a simple fix. In fact if you have secure boot enabled, the Nvidia driver installation will detect it and start the signing process. If you don't have secure boot enabled, then it will skip it. I think having secure boot enabled and properly signing your drivers is good to not end up in that situation again. Though I understand how annoying it can be too. Sigh
Ugh, I just went through the same thing last week. Let's just say that checking if secure boot had been turned back on was NOT one of the first 500 things that came to mind during troubleshooting.
Exactly. I was about to rip my hair out before I thought to check my UEFI settings.
That is brutal lol. RIP.
βWheres that fucking pendrive again?β
ah shit here we go again
My PC: "Oh, you touched /etc/fstab? Fuck you"
Give
systemd-analyze verify /etc/fstab
A try!
But then I'd never get to use my recovery media :(
Users should never have to fiddle with the fstab manually. It's a shame the internet is still pointing to it when asked most of the time instead of explaining the GUI disk tools. Or at least some CLI management tool in case that one exists.
This is the correct mindset to have when trying to push Linux as a viable alternative to the big two.
If you make more things easy for newcomers and just anyone in general, you'll eventually get more users, and a larger base that then correlates to higher overall usage of Linux. You know, like those screenshots of the Linux install base we see every now and then?
You don't have to keep Linux behind arbitrary lines, but for some reason, that's all we like to do.
"Unfortunately" most of the higher user base comes from the Steamdeck where most users never use it as a desktop PC. While many people are now trying Linux for themselves due to lots of good reasons, it remains unnecessarily complicated to use for many reasons. Abundance of bad advice being one of them.
Wrong. You just need to know what you're doing and must not be impatient. Just spend 5 damn minutes reading before you do the thing. We don't always need unnecessary abstractions upon abstractions upon abstractions.
Welcome to the reason 99% of Linux distros remain so unpopular and both hard and unintuitive to use unless you're tech-savvy. After those 5 minutes about 50% do it correct, the other 50% put a single character in the wrong place or follow an incomplete and bad guide and get stuck in boot. Or they'll go and use an OS that's more intuitive and more efficient for them despite probably also extorting them because that weird "Linux" thing is obviously only for nerds, who're completely detached from the reality of most people out there not realizing that modifying core system configuration by hand that can make your device inoperable without any help from your operating system itself should not be the god damn norm.
On don't have a gui on that one.
Those who use a system without any GUI are adv. users or professionals who know what they're capable of, who can safely ignore any safety features.
99% of users ain't Linux professionals though. So 99% of guides and tips should show the more safe, intuitive, accessible GUI tools.
Ok? Not sure what that has to do with my situation.
chroot has all the power to fix it, but my mental state cant handle it
Mood
I canβt relate because Bazzite doesnβt let me do stupid shit :)
I've been their lol. Was cool to learn some new shit but not something I ever want to do again. Have moved to QubesOS and use a Debian base cos Debian simple af
sudo init 0 because yolo