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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago

Chinese company uses servers located in China. More news at 11.

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I swear people do not understand how the internet works.

Anything you use on a remote server is going to be seen to some degree. They may or may not keep track of you, but you can't be surprised if they are. If you run the model locally, there is no indication it is sending anything anywhere. It runs using the same open source LLM tools that run all the other models you can run locally.

This is very much like someone doing surprised pikachu when they find out that facebook saves all the photos they upload to facebook or that gmail can read your email.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

The telephone company knows your phone number!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

So I won't use this for the same reason I don't use any AI? Cool

[–] Jentu@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Idk DeepSeek probably just stores things in the history of my Terminal window.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Any ChatAI logs your keystrokes and your inputs to work and update their LLM. The PP and TOS is the same and even better as those from the US competitors. DeepSeek is OpenSource

Anyway I prefer Andisearch and its PP, the best of all these big tech AIs.

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 days ago

Yes? Is it a surprise that a Chinese company stores it's data on a Chinese server?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 337 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

DeepSeek does the same things that OpenAI does, but it's a foreign actor so OOooooOOWwwwooOOOO sCaRrRey!

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 217 points 2 days ago (86 children)

Wait until they hear what data Instagram/Meta collects during use!

But they're a US company so it's ok.

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[–] Mojeek@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago

haha, now do openai

[–] Azenis@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I trust DeepSeek Open Source if it allows me to copy and review it. I don't trust ~~Open~~AI like ChatGPT.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

Nope, At least we can check DeepSeek's source code

Unlike OpenAI..... oops I meant ClosedAI

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I feel safer knowing that my data is not in a country where the company can use it against me

[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 days ago

I'm safer knowing that my data is safe at home.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 139 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This "China's AI is taking your data and that's bad" is shockingly similar to "TikTok is taking your data and that's bad". Lots of US counterparts do the same thing, but I don't see (as much) media coverage about that.

Don Draper: "no no no, everyone else's cigarettes are dangerous. Lucky Strikes are... toasted."

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[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah and ChatGPT doesn’t

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not excusing Chinese companies but everyone does the same shit. I bet a lot of US companies that behave the same or worse will be looking for trade barriers to protect their business so their interests will be stoking fear of Chinese competitors. I don't really give a shit which country is doing it, I am not buying what they are selling.

US companies have a stranglehold on government, education and business and are getting access to my families data despite my personal objections. Far more concerned about that than a Chinese service I have no intention of using.

Deepseek can at least be self hosted if you want AI in your life. I can happily live without it.

[–] tht@social.pwned.page 28 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I run it locally on a 4080, how do they capture my keystrokes?

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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Your devices keyboard app has been collecting all of your keystrokes.

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[–] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 2 days ago

And? This anti China propaganda is falling apart.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

This is my total lack of surprise.

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

no sh*t! now tell me, not that it's correct, but what does the chinese intelligence apparatus can do to me vs. what the u.s. intelligence apparatus (which has been collecting intelligence about me since i'm alive) can do to me?

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago

As a queer woman in the US, I currently care infinitely more what the US gov and companies track about me than what China does.

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[–] 0x520@slrpnk.net 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At least its not stored on american servers.

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