Guess its time to set up a hardware key
this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2025
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I'll probably move to Keepass, I like to have control over my vault file, probably better than whatever "2fa" they are forcing anyways, since only I know where the vault is at.
I mean, if they're forcing 2FA at all, that's a good thing, but they still have the usual TOTP and hardware key options.
Anyway, I understand why people would want to host their own vault file. Just remember that obfuscation (i.e. being the only one who knows where your vault is) isn't a viable security method. Removing access to potential thieves is.
Already store the most critical stuff in keepass; use bitwarden for the lower-risk stuff that benefits from the higher convenience factor.
something done by many services, sites, and games.
but yea, i get it. the problem of asking someone to login to a service that they (bw) are holding your key for, in order for you to get into where that key is held.
For what it's worth, as of a minute ago the form that's for sending the email code asks if you have reliable access to the email before sending the code.
But otherwise seems to be a non-issue with any of the software/hardware mfa options it supports. Good to let others know about this though!
I don't see anyone mentioning it, but what if you do forget (or don't know) your email password? Is there absolutely no way to recover your account? I'm sure there might be some services that are that restrictive, but I'd think that most are recoverable with some extra steps, no? Unless I'm missing something?
I don't know, they haven't implemented it yet.
I hope that if enough people started to get locked out, they will reverse or delay it for a few months and give people time to access the vault and make preparations.
Since you are seeing my post, you know this is happeneing, so you should probably change your email password to something memorable.
Or put that in a Keepass vault, and remember the Keepass password, and back up the vault to multiple cloud accounts, multiple Hard Drives / SSDs, etc. (I had this done just before I posted this post)
Or just move entirely to Keepass, like I'm planning to do.
Why would they ever force this?
The purpose of MFA is to:
Mitigate using the same password on multiple sites and one of them has a data breach.
Mitigate the impact of keyloggers/other kinds of malware.
Mitigate the bad security of bad passwords.
Mitigate the password manager's own data breach.
If you have at least two braincells, you will chose a unique and secure password for your password manager. That's the point of password managers, that you only have to remember 1 password so it can be unique and strong. Also, a password manager (specially open source) should have almost perfect security, so them being hacked should not be a concern.
The only thing MFA is doing on password managers is to mitigate malware. Which I don't think is a good justification to force everyone the hassle of MFA.
Fine if the wanna give the option of MFA, but don't force it on everyone.
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