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US Cloud soon illegal? Trump punches first hole in EU-US Data Deal. (noyb.eu)

submitted 6 days ago by Blaze@lemmy.zip to c/privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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[+] atro_city@fedia.io -15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

European Comission in a tough spot.

The EU is in a spot of its own doing. I hope Trump crushes the agreement and forces the EU to rethink business with the U.S. It's about bloody time!

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is a lose lose for both sides, not sure what you're talking about.

Trump's been ruining the US's diplomacy with basically every country they wouldn't want to piss off. And he was only inaugurated a couple of days ago.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lose lose? The EU needs to finally move its critical systems from those being surveilled by the USA, China or any other country. Health, energy, traffic, governmental systems, all of them shouldn't be on systems owned (even in part) by foreign companies / nations. Trump forcing this to happen is an absolute win in the long term.

Get foreign companies out of our critical systems. They are a risk and the US is proving why - they can turn fascist at any point and our dependency on them is a liability.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I assumed you were talking from a US perspective. The US is relied upon too heavily but Trump is not the solution IMO.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump is not the solution for the US, that is true (Bernie would've been a good option 8 years ago, Andrew Yang probably still is a good solution now). But Trump is the solution for the rest of the world. People don't realize their errors when things are going well, it's precisely the opposite. Trump has to fuck up relationships with his partners so badly that they understand the errors in their ways.

Unfortunately, that seems to be the only way besides money that people at the top (or in general) learn. Without Trump, the EU (and many other countries) would continue relying on the US for too much and letting it creep its way into everything (culture, critical systems, trade, local politics, family discussions, language, etc.).

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Just saw an article this morning about how the Swiss federal retirement fund (AHV) is now managed by a US bank, which could freeze assets if it wanted to. The facepalm is nuclear.

The reason: It's cheaper.

But "politics don't interest me", "I don't vote, nothing really changes, anyway", "I don't pay attention, too much effort".

... I'm burning out. I need a hole to crawl into for a while.