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please post any subsequent updates here unless they're huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don't have to be their own thread

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[–] Girlparts@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

url most roads to Moscow blocked

[–] Girlparts@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

https://m.twitch.tv/akapello

Civilian livestreaming roadblocks (allegedly)

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kadyrov's Chechens are being pulled out of Donbas to fortify Rostov.

source : https://twitter.com/Cen4infoRes/status/1672615799620612099

Whose side is Kadyrov on? Or is he his own side?

[–] miket@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

They're on their own side, they're mercs and loyal to money, just like Wagner. Right now, they're taking Putin's money.

However, as soon as Putin's down or out of money, they'll switch sides easily.

Keep in mind that Chechens were at some point at war with Putin as well and Putin won that one. Kadyrov's an ally of Putin at this point.

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[–] atocci@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (20 children)

I am going to be glued to Kbin all day for this. This won't stop the Ukrainian invasion though, will it? It sounded like things will be continuing as they have but under a different leader. There's no real "benefit" to Ukraine in this, is there?

[–] miket@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The benefit is a distraction on the Russian military side, it may give the counteroffensive from Ukraine a tiny boost. The real impact is probably negligent, it's not going to make any major changes.

Also, FYI: it's not "Ukrainian invasion", Ukraine isn't invading anyone.

It's full-on war between Ukraine and Russia.

The impact on this isn't going to stop the war, only a surrender/peace agreement and full withdrawal of all Russian troops from Ukraine's 1991 borders will end the war.

Russians are used to swapping out regimes and leaderships all the time, so this may not change anything and the war against Ukraine can still continue under a different regime.

[–] Bucket_of_Truth@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like the Russian army is in total disarray at the moment.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'd imagine there are benefits to them in that it weakens their enemy, because either Wagner loses, and therefore Russia loses the forces they represent, or they succeed, which would mean uncertainty and chaos among the regular army during the transition. There's also potential for Russian forces to be weakened anywhere that Wagner was holding and removed troops from, or anywhere held by troops that get redirected to fight them, and off course that this will mean Russia takes losses and spends equipment fighting itself instead of Ukraine.

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[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Ukraine's intelligence had foreseen this coup 3 months ago. Budanov's "shh" makess a lot more sense now.

source : https://twitter.com/APHClarkson/status/1672490934116708352

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i hope putin a very dive to see the mosva in a experimental submersible.

[–] AJ@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Ava@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I usually read Tim Mak's reporting on Ukraine, and he has his article out about it here: https://open.substack.com/pub/counteroffensive/p/newsflash-russia-wracked-by-rebellion

It lays out the general events well enough, I don't know if he'll keep updating that page specifically. But it was good as an intro to what's happening.

[–] Girlparts@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is lemmy capable of a hug of death? The site is not loading to me :/

[–] Girlparts@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Pulls up for me

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago
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[–] static@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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