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[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry, why is cleaner #2 in the list?

Farmers, Engineers, Police/Fire/Ambulance, Teachers, etc...

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Except for farmers humanity has gone quite a long time without them

Edit to clear up confusion about the wording: I meant that we need farmers, the rest not so much

Only in the professional sense, medicine and engineering as concepts of let's not have these people die of what we know to be preventable has been around a lot longer than agriculture.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am not sure what your point is. Society will collapse if all the farmers stop doing their work. Seems pretty important to me.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I read it that way first as well but I think it's intended the other way: "for everyone except farmers" ...

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I believe the intended reading should have a comma after farmers, which would clarify that "them" at the end of the sentence is only referring to engineers, police/fire/ambulance, teachers, etc...

EDIT: actually now that I think about it I don't know that a comma alone would fix it, but I still support the comma there.

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The romans had engineers and fire fighting crews. Nearly every society has had some kind of police/army/guard to enforce laws. Farmers actually opened the door to most other jobs/careers because people didn't have to rely on themselves to grow or collect their own food which left more time to become an engineer, learn math, become a salesman or any other job that could be filled.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nearly every society has had some kind of police/army/guard to enforce laws.

Big citation needed here. Many societies didn't have a professional army but rather armed citizens who went to war when needed and had other occupations otherwise. See for example the second amendment which wanted a "well regulated Militia" instead of a professional army. Also this is different from a police force which isn't universal either. Many watch each other or have rotating shifts or something which isn't the same as a police that necessarily stands above the law to enforce it.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Add health insurance CEO to the top of the non-essential jobs list.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Good thing we’re getting rid of those immigrants. That should free up loads of artist, telemarketer, social media manager, and PR specialist jobs.

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