It's so pathetic that all these UFO stories are being taken seriously by world governments. What's next? Will they turn down the lights in the capital and tell ghost stories?
this post was submitted on 14 Sep 2023
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smart of them aliens to make themselves look exactly as pop culture of 20th century has depicted them
The linked article didn't show a picture of the "proof"...
WTF is that even supposed to be? Bones covered in skin with a miraculously preserved face?
It looks like a toddler’s paper mache project
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So is there just something in the water all throughout North America or what?
You see these kinds of claims everywhere. Maybe not aliens, mind. Before space and aliens were on everyone’s mind, people were abducted or fed on (among many other sordid things…) by vampires.
And demons and all sorts of other creatures.
Aliens are only the latest in a long list of boogeymen.
Fairies was more common than vampires. Being kidnapped by the fairies and even replaced with a changeling was a very common folk motif even into the 19th century.
It's definitely very US centric overall.
Reddit was (or rather still is) full of it this time around too and people in various subs called everyone who dismissed this obvious fraud (by the same fraudster that literally pulled the SAME fraud 5 years ago already) as being part of a CIA operation to cover this up.
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Mostly the U.S. to be honest.
From the video "Data Source: https://nuforc.org/"
It's a US based website thats in English, of course non English speaking nations aren't going to be represented
Somehow, it seems, you managed to cause PipedLinkBot to repost your YouTube link instead of the Piped link, which then triggers PipedLinkBot to reply to itself infinitely. Maybe because the link is to an unlisted video?
I don't know how to get it to stop. Maybe a moderator can ban it temporarily.
It can't be stopped. It's self-sustaining now.
I reported the first comment, hopefully a mod spots it soon. Up to 35 replies
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I've been wondering about that too. This dude was already busted for passing off dolls as aliens. The article said they aren't even sure that he's made new dolls since then. So maybe this is just an opportunist that saw renewed interest.
More generally though, there's sort of a drumbeat of alien news from official sources. Like it's a psyop, but I don't know why. Maybe to give the Q-susceptible types something more controlled to fantasize about? Aliens are actually in contact and the govt wants to soften the blow? They made some badass weapon and want a cover story?
Guerrilla marketing for another X-Files reboot?
There is a a lot of legitimate inquiry occurring and as someone who does genuinely want answers, I am disappointed but not surprised that people like this guy are coming out of the woodwork and discrediting the work that has been done.
I truly believe that the renewed interest and news is because this topic has gotten too big to keep covering up. There are whistleblowers, trained fighter pilots, and commercial airline pilots coming forward and speaking to the legitimacy of UAPs. There is compelling civilian video because everyone now has a good camera in their pocket.
They have been captured on video that has been officially released by the Pentagon, including a video of a silver orb bearing resemblance to the “Foo fighter” UAP that pilots have been reporting since the Second World War. They are being discussed in official memos to Canada’s Prime Minister after our Defence Minister was clear that what was shot down was an object, not a balloon. The memo states that there is a risk that the object could be found by indigenous hunters - if it’s a weather balloon or something innocuous why would they care? They have been observed by US navy fighter pilots entering and exiting the ocean.
Look, I understand that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but we’re not even allowing broad, legitimate discourse about this topic without mockery and eye brow raising. How will we ever get to the bottom of what is happening if we can’t even seriously discuss it? Why would hundreds of trained pilots lie about what they have seen? It’s not just one guy. And it seems like it has been happening for a LONG time.
The questions I want answers to:
- How long has the military/five-eyes really been tracking this phenomena.
- Do we have any idea where they come from or what they are.
- Have we recovered any craft.
However, at this point I would even accept an official saying yes they’re real and it’s not human or no here’s what they are with a thorough explanation but we don’t even get that much.
So they break our understanding of physics, but we are able to shoot them down?
And they have been showing themselves, just out of sight, for decades? Without any other effects?
If they're aliens capable of interstellar travel, then they really suck at utilizing their technology, which would be far far more advanced than ours. Or they're doing this intentionally, which also would make no sense. Other explanations are far simpler and more plausible.
The reason people mock this is because people go to the most outrageous conclusions before anything more reasonable, without sufficient proof to rule out simpler explanations. You know, a process which every other field of science uses.
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we’re not even allowing broad, legitimate discourse about this topic without mockery and eye brow raising.
Blame the decades (over a century?) of grifters taking advantage of people's gullibility.
It doesn't help that there is not a single solid proof, or that top secret information is not just available to anyone with a clearance, but only on a "need to know" basis. If there was actual proof, and there was an actual aircraft, or even actual contact... what would you do with that knowledge? Do you "need" to know, or just "want" to know?
As far as I see, there are three possible scenarios:
- There is nothing, it's just a bunch of sensor glitches, visual illusions, and imagination from people who want to believe.
- There are no ETs, just advanced technology, that no country wants to reveal before using it by surprise in the next war.
- There are ETs, the technology is millennia more advanced than ours, for all intents and purposes it looks like magic, we can't reverse-engineer it, or stop it, or even properly detect it, and we may not even be the ones deciding who gets to know.
Which one would you want to believe?
I've personally known people whose accounts point to scenario 3... even I have personally seen things that have been hard to explain... but without proof, they could all be just a mix of 1 and 2.
Or a glitch in the Matrix 🤷
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Let me try to explain this as someone that lives in Mexico, Jaime Maussan is like a cheap version of Fox Mulder or that "Aliens" meme guy from history channel. Bigfoot, loch Ness, martians, etc you name it.
Nothing new for us but he must be thrilled that someone from outside Mexico pays attention to him.
And he already tried this couple years back with a mummy with 3 fingers and DNA showed it was a human child. I wouldn't hold my breath for these to be anything different.
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This is a distraction. Something nefarious is going on unrelated to this nonsense.
You mean like the entirety of the world collapsing and burning alive.
Yeah
It ties in with Qanon narratives too. Most of those conspiracy theorists believe "aliens" run the show, Trump/Biden is a clone and other wacky shit. It's funny how grifters like this guy try to keep the narrative going for the delusional. It reinforces their beliefs, kind of like Sound of Freedom validates Qanon beliefs about human trafficking.
If half of these people took the time they spend and reinvested into the actual issues of the world like financial abuse, police system reform, climate study, biology, chemistry, we’d all be in a substantially better place.
Don’t forget that y’all.
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For once I'm glad this is an example of pure stupid that isn't coming from the USA.
My favourite part was when the little aliens suddenly got up and did a little song and dance number.
Cartel and mafia team up to try to distract dumb Americans while they fuck with our elections and puppet naive politicians to become president.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Mexican journalist José Jaime Maussan presented two boxes with supposed mummies found in Peru, which he and others consider “non-human beings that are not part of our terrestrial evolution.”
In 2017, Maussan made similar claims in Peru, and a report by the country’s prosecutor’s office found that the bodies were actually “recently manufactured dolls, which have been covered with a mixture of paper and synthetic glue to simulate the presence of skin.”
On Wednesday, Julieta Fierro, researcher at the Institute of Astronomy at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, was among those to express skepticism, saying that many details about the figures “made no sense.”
Congressman Sergio Gutiérrez Luna of the ruling Morena party, made it clear that Congress has not taken a position on the theses put forward during the more than three-hour session.
Grusch’s highly anticipated testimony before a House Oversight subcommittee was the U.S. Congress’ latest foray into the world of UAPs — or “unidentified aerial phenomena,” which is the official term the U.S. government uses instead of UFOs.
Democrats and Republicans in recent years have pushed for more research as a national security matter due to concerns that sightings observed by pilots may be tied to U.S. adversaries.
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