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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Doing this to combat bots like they aren't also using bots to scrape data from the internet is interesting.

I wonder how this affects modified/custom search engines (like udm14).

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Udm14 is just a query parameter to open google with the "web" results tab. Still works.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I know, but I have it set as a custom search engine and what I'm saying is, if someone were to use it in chrome would it still require them to enable java. I think that answer is that it would. I don't use chrome so I'm not gonna test it.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 14 points 14 hours ago

the widely used programming language to make web pages interactive

I hope we aren't talking forms and input fields, right?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 36 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

great!

now I can just disable JavaScript to end my dependence on their services.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

It breaks gpt when you do that too.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 102 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I remember interviewing at Google years ago (if you're keeping score, it was 2012/2013 just before their stock hiccupped and my onboarding was killed as I was only a 97% fit), and the guy was religious about page load times. "We cut 200 lines of code if it'll give us a millisecond of page load speed", that kind of thing.

How they've fallen.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 39 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

well they don't need to fight for new users anymore. Everyone uses it already, and children are basically indoctrinated to it: all schools have that as search engine, often they even use google classroom and drive and whatnot on the classes. if they have chromebooks, the chrome browser automatically starts after login even if you don't want to use it, and you can't unpin it from the taskbar either

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (4 children)

Google sucks so bad that I switched to Bing. BING!

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You’re a decade late on that, Bing isn’t good anymore

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Honestly nothing is good anymore. Every search engine brings up the same SEO optimized dogshit articles. I sometimes use Arc browser but that’s not really that different than asking ChatGPT.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

fuckya life BING BONG

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

DuckDuckGo for day-to-day stuff, Bing for naughty content.

[–] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 2 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

Duckduckgo is bing. They route their searches there afaik. It's just a privacy layer, like startpage is a privacy layer on Google.

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Careful saying that round these parts, you'll summon the ducks.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago
[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 154 points 1 day ago (4 children)

At this point I’ve been using DDG for 7 years as my main search engine. It’s gotten better while Google has become a joke.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Can confirm. I didn't think it'd be like that but it do be like that. DDG gang, where you at.

[–] dukethorion@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

So, you're saying Bing got better.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 4 points 3 hours ago

DuckDuckGo: The coolest way to use bing and apple maps.
(I do use it though)

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

DDG does add their own spice on to – or so they claim, and Bing doesn't have bangs so I'd never want to use it.

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

I don’t know the full story about how Microsoft is developing Bing, but I do know that Google made a conscious decision to make their search results worse, simply so that you’d search more times, which for them translates to additional ad revenue. But, my sense is Bing hasn’t gone this far yet.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

It's not only the results, though, but other features too

[–] TheFunkyMonk@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

I switched to DDG recently due to the manifest v3 changes and AI junk and have been really liking it. It feels like what Google used to be when it was good.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can't wait until they enshittify, the way I see it, everything will eventually, even Lemmy. It's up to us to not settle too hard in one place

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The fact Lemmy is open source and federated makes it almost impossible to enshittify. What are you gonna do, show ads? Third party clients are first class citizens here

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They get a large enough audience for disinformation campaigns

Once you see people start defending Russia it’s over

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

One scenario is that normies join en masse and influencers/marketers follow them, and the quality of conversation goes to zero like on all big platforms. You can't solve this with software.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 8 points 10 hours ago

So that's "getting shittier" but not "enshittification". The latter is explicitly a profit-motive driven phenomenon, coined by Cory Doctorow in 2023. Here's the original post he made about it: https://doctorow.medium.com/tiktoks-enshittification-bb3f5df91979

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 19 hours ago

it still can enshittify, but we can save it with the help of git and the fork button

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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 38 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

I didn't know they allowed you to search without JS before. If you're at the point of disabling JS, presumably for security or privacy reasons, why not just use DDG which works perfectly well without JS?

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[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 166 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Google begins recommending DuckDuckGo.

[–] gregor@gregtech.eu 12 points 15 hours ago

Or SearXNG. I run an instance, you can check it out: search.gregtech.eu

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[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 75 points 1 day ago

Feels good not to care anymore about the unrelenting enshittification of Reddit, Twitter and Google since I switched away from them.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just makes me realize that I haven't used Google search in like over a year now because I use Kagi. Even before that i was using searx-ng.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 69 points 1 day ago

Cool. As if the over-promotion of AI garbage wasn't enough of a reason to stop using it.

[–] tkr@jlai.lu 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

why no one quotes searx instances? https://searx.space/

or even paid search engines : kagi.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 4 points 13 hours ago

Kagi is good

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Isnt literally the first Q&A that is REQUIRES Js?

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