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[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago
[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Even if every single person in the world had a unique gender, you could store that in 33 bits

You can store that in a small QR code

[–] Floey@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Those bits wouldn't really provide the information to construct that gender though.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 6 points 3 days ago

Neither would if you stored it as a bit

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Approximation is an important tool for compressing information into useable forms. All labels are limited approximations too. Such compression is inevitably lossy, but that is a sacrifice for the sake of practicality. The important question is what level of compression is acceptable for a given context. If I describe the location of a chess piece on the board, I don't need to specify how far off-center on its square a given piece is, so a 0-7 offset along each of the two axes is enough for game purposes.

When it comes to gender, I think we all agree that [0, 1] is insufficient, but how do we determine what is sufficient? Do we argue that a 2-bit vector (masc, fem) is enough to describe {neither, fem, masc, both} for rough rounding, or do we need more detailed values along those axes, or perhaps a third axis too (or more)?

[–] DeadMartyr@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is a very nice and effective blurb, I'm saving this comment for future use

There's no awards/medals here but take this: 🥇

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Honestly, "I found this useful/interesting/amusing/worth leaving a positive comment avout" is the only award I need. Thanks for the words of appreciation ❤️

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Maybe a byte using bitflags?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My gender is e, which can be represented by neither integers nor floating points.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can it be expressed or represented approximately in IEEE-754 form?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Always approximated, never truly represented 😞

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Everything can be represented approximatively.

e = π = 3

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 days ago (4 children)

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who get ternary; those who don't; those who thought this was going to be a binary joke

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago (6 children)

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who get quaternary; those who don't; those who thought this was going to be a ternary joke; those who can see where this is going...

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[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

There are n types of people in this world: Those who don't understand numeral systems, those who understand base x systems for x ∈ [2, n] and those who get pedantic about this meta-joke.

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[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Obviously, there is True, False and FILE_NOT_FOUND

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[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Maybe it can be represented by 1qbit

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't think so, because with qubits the intermediate values can be non binary but the end result must be binary when read. Unless you wanna make a joke about filling out government forms I guess lol.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago

literally discussed with my friends the other day that gender is like a vector in Hilbert space

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 27 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Choose one class of gender:

  • Natural
  • Rational
  • Irrational
  • Complex
[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

this is p-adic gender erasure

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

That's a very quaternionphobic list.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So many other things are also non-binary, but people insist that not being 100% on their side means you're a million percent on the extreme opposite hateful wrong side.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely. My baseline is that I want everyone to be treated equally and with respect. I want everyone have the same protections from the government and everyone to be allowed to be and to love whoever they want.

Past that, it gets into minutia I just can't get on board with and it's hurting the left as a whole because people are trying to force language and thought policing on people, which I don't like, it's authoritarian, and I think it's a losing strategy.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

It's been said that indecisiveness and perfectionism are liberal weaknesses, and decisiveness and being willing to ignore imperfections for the sake of the team are conservative strengths. I think Michael Moore put it best... Liberals say, "What should we do about dinner? I don't know... do you want to go out? I dunno, do you? Well, if you do. Okay, where should we go? I dunno, where do you wanna go?" A conservative slams his hand on the table and says, "Get in the car, we're goin' to the Sizzler!"

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

A lot of the userbase here thinks this way and it's very tiresome

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

I've been thinking about this now and again. IMO gender, if one insists on tracking it at all (which I mostly find counterproductive), would need to be a vector / tuple of floating-point values. The components would be something like:

  1. Sexual Development Index: Encodes chromosomal sex, genitalia, and other primary sexual characteristics (X/Y chromosome ratio).
  2. Hormonal Balance & Secondary Sexual Characteristics: Combines hormonal levels and the resulting secondary traits (body hair, muscle mass, etc.).
  3. Brain Structure: A dimension indicating how a person's brain structure aligns with typical male or female patterns.
  4. Gender Identity: A measure of self-identified gender, representing the psychological and social dimension.
  5. Fertility/Intersex Traits: A combined measure of fertility potential and the presence of intersex traits (e.g., ambiguous genitalia, mixed gonadal structures, etc.).

Ideally it would track the specific genes that code for all of the above factors, but unfortunately science hasn't got those down yet.

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 days ago

Also genes is only half of it. Expression of genes is another, complicated story.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Gender is not a boolean value.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

🚫 const gender

👉 var gender

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

khm, khm
let gender

please don't use deprecated syntax

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[–] Atlusb@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And liable to type conversion errors and precision loss.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Jesus, why'd you have to bring floating point and machine precision into the conversation? Now I won't sleep. And the nightmares will be worse than before.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Mine is #1B4D3E

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Ayyyyy wanna smash bros?

[–] enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago

We may have discovered gender entropy, Shannon would be proud

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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