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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 96 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I live in the US and it's becoming more and more unusual in many places to see people smoking. As a result, I see fewer discarded cigarette butts than ever. Still not zero, but getting there.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (24 children)

I live in the U.S. too and I still see a ton here in Indiana, but we also apparently have a nicotine addiction epidemic here that no one talks about much.

As of 2022:

Nearly 29% of Indiana adults currently use tobacco. Combustible cigarettes are the most used tobacco product, followed by e-cigarettes.

https://www.in.gov/health/tpc/files/Indiana-Adult-Tobacco-Survey-ATS-2021_2022-Highlights_Revised_Nov22.pdf

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm in Western NY, but even in NYC it's less than 9%. The state offers a lot of support for quitting, perhaps that's why.

[–] TwentySeven@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Aren't cigarettes like $15 a pack there? That probably has something to do with it.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

They're $15 throughout the state. So they're probably more in the city.

Reservation cigarettes negate those prices though.

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I remember when I left Indiana 25 years ago that it was the highest per capita state for smoking, with Kentucky being number 2.

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's the hardest thing about traveling to Europe for me. I love being in Europe, but after living in a part of the US with almost no smokers it is jarring to smell cigarette smoke everywhere on the streets there.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I get nostalgic whenever I smell cigarettes, which is very rare these days.

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[–] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's one of those big cultural shifts that has gone on in my life slowly but steadily. I recall my school bus driver would smoke doing his rounds, people smoking almost everywhere, even grocery stores. My family had lots of smokers, 3 out of my 4 grandparents smoked, all paid the piper, the habit led to their demise. Vending machines selling cigarettes everywhere. I recall it first was restricted on airplanes, with smoking sections separated with curtains, then in restaurants. A lot of it was ineffective and mostly symbolic, but then the biggest change was when California banned almost all indoor smoking in businesses, other states followed suit over the next decade. That combined with all the legal problems the tobacco industry had in the 90s has really caused a dramatic shift.

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Is it just being replaced by other equally bad habits? I just found out that disposable vape pens are a thing. Those have plastics and electronics inside. I have no idea what the numbers there are.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Although vaping has become really big, there's a lot more people quitting smoking than there are picking up vaping.

And vaping is not equally bad by a long shot. Cigarettes are far worse for you. Also, vaping isn't nearly as annoying for the people around the user. I say all this as a cigarette smoker myself.

Those disposable vapes are disgustingly wasteful. Apparently you can take them apart and make them reusable or repurpose the battery, but very few people are going to mess with that.

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[–] Steve@communick.news 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought tires were responsible for like 25% of micro plastics.

Never mind. I just read what I wrote, and realized they're two different things.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 week ago

I also had the idea that fishing nets were the most common sea plastic.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Aren’t microplastics from car tires more common?

[–] Mojave@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I thought so too, and maybe they are using a different metric in this article, but I couldn't tell you since their source URL is a deadline.......

https://www.surfrider.org/programs/beach-cleanups

I also remember Coke, Pepsi, and Nestle being claimed as the highest plastic polluters as well.

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[–] embed_me@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago

Presumably plastic pollution is a superset of microplastic pollution

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just ban the filter. Let them smoke raw and unfiltered.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

We should go back to using natural materials for filters, like asbestos. /s

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Pretty typical response these days. "jUsT BaN iT!"

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Dislike smoking but realize that for addicts often public infrastructure doesn't give you a lot of options for getting rid of butts. Seems like biodegradable butts should be mandatory. On the other hand I will lean into my horn if I see someone throwing butts out of their car. That is inexcusable - get an ashtray for your vehicle.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I mean, who cares? It's the smokers' problem? If you can't dispose of your trash take it with you or stop producing it until you can. That's true for any trash.

We expect people to carry doggie bags, too. Just clean up after yourself.

I realize that's idealistic and it's never going to happen because smokers be littering, but it makes me mad regardless.

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[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I just get all the tobacco out of the butt and put it in my back pocket until I find a trash can. It makes me stink even worse but that's better than littering.

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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

When I smoked I always put my butts in my pocket.

It's not hard to pick up after yourself. Put the cig out, and instead of dropping it on the ground put it in your pocket. If thats too stinky carry a sandwich bag or dog poop bag for them.

Now that that's out of the way, it's interesting that birds have been using cigarette butts to line their nests. Turns out nicotine is a great miticide. Hopefully it's not hurting them in the long run, which is why we should pick up our fucking garbage.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

flicking your cigarette into the void was completely normal every place that i lived in the US. it isn't thought about or frowned upon. it's simply part of the ritual of having a cigarette.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Some exec at RJ Reynolds in the 40's

"The damn government is making us take asbestos out of the filters. What can we put instead?"

"I know, how bout some space aged plastic!"

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And as the article already says what’s even worse is the cocktail of chemicals in those filters which are even more harmful than simple PET and the like.

[–] llama@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

That's crazy! I didn't even realize they had plastic in them. Makes you wonder how many inconspicuous everyday items have the potential to become plastic waste.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Car tires are supposed to be bad. I remember reading each loses ~1kg in pulverised plastic dust over the lifetime?
Luckily, at least some of that is filtered from the air by people's lungs.

[–] llama@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh, do you know what else? Paint. Apparently, a lot of studies didn't account for microplastics that came from several types of paint that end up in the environment. Scary stuff.

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[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

That we know of, I bet microplastics is actually worse but we can’t measure it in aggregate well.

[–] FiniteLooper@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wasn’t aware cigarettes contained any plastic at all

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

The filters are basically all plastic except the paper around them.

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