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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wish Signal stopped using it. I know you can set a Signal PIN but a lot of the non-techy friends I speak to on Signal probably wouldn't think to, or look through the settings (not that you need to be "techy" to set it, but you know the kind of learned helplessness most people have about tech). At least a prompt for all users to set an account PIN so their account can't just be stolen by anyone with their SIM card.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I thought they abandoned SMS a couple years ago??

[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They abandoned letting you use the Signal app to send and recieve SMS. You still need to get a code via SMS to activate your Signal account. I believe this is what they are referring to.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Yep, I was referring to that. You can stick someone else's SIM in your phone and log into their signal account if they've not set a Signal PIN. You don't see message history but new messages to that person will go to you.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

Another thing is that even if you set a PIN, you'd still have to log into your account relatively regularly so that if you lose access to your number, you wouldn't lose an account. It's logical, given that numbers are reused... But that means that if you want to register without effectively tying your account to your ID (KYC when buying numbers is mandatory in a lot of the world, remember!), you'd have to pay for another phone bill (expensive given that the number's practically doing nothing!) or use a one-time rental... Which guess what, puts your account at constant risk!

[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm new to technology, is this good?

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

New Clipper Chip mandatory in new phones for "security" 😉

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[–] BigLime@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

I coulda told you that for free. And sooner

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ive been slowly hearing about this over the last week or so, and I couldnt tell if it was real news or just over exaggerated.

And everyone has been on an on about iphone to android RCS, but no word on if anything is being done to fix the vulnerability.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

What vulnerability? I thought RCS is encrypted on transit

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

RCS doesn't really do a whole lot of anything. It's a step up from SMS/MMS, but not by much.

All the features people think they mean when they're talking about RCS are proprietary Google extensions that only work if you go through Google's servers. They're basically exactly the same as Apple putting iMessage on top; Apple just brags about it while Google tries to trick you into thinking incompatibility is someone else's fault for not giving them control.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Usually I’ll defend Apple on this, but yes it’s a step up from SMS, and Apple is a big reason RCS hadnt been widely adopted as a replacement, and incremented to include more features.

I’m definitely on Googles side here: years of no one doing anything until “fine, I’ll take care it myself”

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apple didn't bother because it sucks. It's not an actual solution (or path to one) for messaging not to be a dumpster fire.

Google "did it itself" exclusively for control. It's exactly the same as their browser behavior.

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