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[–] Creddit@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

This is a story that's been rotating through the media since ChatGPT first released.

I have an unpopular opinion about this headline after seeing the media cycle repeatedly downplay/ignore what Alphabet has been doing in response to OpenAI: Google the search engine is not in direct competition with ChatGPT, but Gemini is, and Alphabet is smart to keep simpler/time-tested search functionality central to Google rather than react strongly and scrap the keyword-based search bar that users understand are comfortable using - especially older users, but I think most people are starting to discover they have a use for both search and LLM chats.

I think there are two product categories here, which first looked like they were going to converge in 2022-2024, but which are now slowly changing course as customers start to comprehend how both are necessary for different purposes.

When I make chats in ChatGPT or Gemini or Claude etc, I am starting to plan them longitudinally so that I can use them over and over for a specific project or query type.

When I turn to a search bar, it's because I really want a proxy for a specific website or between me and whatever weird site has the answer to my specific question. It's not that I want discussion and a chat about it, I just want Google's card-like results with a website index I can read instead of that website's stylized, animated web design on top or popups or malware.

Every time I get sucked into a chat with Bing CoPilot(ChatGPT) when I really only had a web search query, I regret wasting my time talking to the LLM. Almost as a reflex, I've started avoiding it for most things now.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

Just check your tea leaves.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Google isn’t a search engine any more. It stopped being that some years ago.

Now it’s more accurately described as a shitty content feed that can be weakly filtered using key words.

[–] ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

This is why so much research has been going into AI lately. The trend is already to not read articles or source material and base opinions off click bait headlines, so naturally relying on AI summaries and search results will soon come next. People will start to assume any generated response from a 'trusted search ai' is true, so there is a ton of value in getting an AI to give truthful and correct responses all of the time, and then be able to edit certain responses to inject whatever truth you want. Then you effectively control what truth is, and be able to selectively edit public opinion by manipulating what people are told is true. Right now we're also being trained that AI may make things up and not be totally accurate- which gives those running the services a plausible excuse if caught manipulating responses.

I am not looking forward to arguing facts with people citing AI responses as their source for truth. I already know if I present source material contradicting them, they lack the ability to actually read and absorb the material.

[–] OhShitSon@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

"Let's ask MULTIVAC!"

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Might as well. All the sites are just AI articles anyway

[–] DarkRedman@framapiaf.org 3 points 5 days ago

@RmDebArc_5 I'm all about "DuckDuckGo this !" 🦆

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Chat~gpt~ is this real

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Just ask Elon

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