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    [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago

    when you can't be bothered to setup arch linux:

    [–] noxy@yiffit.net 4 points 6 days ago

    fucking runit

    [–] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago

    Who remembers Antergos

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    This meme was brought to you by an arch user desperately trying to justify the mental gymnastics of using systemd in their supposedly "keep it simple" distro

    EDIT: I joke of course. If arch/systemd works well for you, that's all that matters!

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

    It was just a pun, cuz Arch is popular, I use Void actually 😊.

    [–] rovingnothing29@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Why isn't Manjaro the one in the meme?

    [–] sazey@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I use manjaro and you said nothing but facts.

    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I just quit Manjaro about two months ago and i agree.

    [–] ignotum@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I haven't tried Manjaro and I don't have an opinion

    [–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

    I switched back to Manjaro today and I agree.

    [–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Frankly I'd much rather have void. Super cool distro, a lot of things about it seem like an ideal fit for me, I just don't really have the technical skill to get a minimal distro all set up the way I want it

    Plus their logo is pretty. Which shouldn't matter but like, look at it- it's a cool logo!

    [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Yes, the install process is difficult to perform. But once you do it, you'll feel like a wizard. You learn so much from the process if you do a manual chroot install. It helps you understand how the installation process for other distros like Debian works. If you have some free time, I would recommend trying it in a virtual machine.

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    [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    As one of the dozens of Void Linux users, I too find this very offensive!

    (But hey, at least we're getting some attention, which is nice....)

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    [–] docktordreh@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I don't agree with it being a cheap version of arch, it works too good for that, it deserves more respect

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Nah, it's just play 😊.

    It's better than Arch if you ask me, I use it on all my rigs.

    [–] docktordreh@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Okay :) I've been using it for a few years now, have never looked back at arch or any other distribution 😄

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    It's so freaking stable, it's boring 😂.

    [–] docktordreh@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah well, playing around with the package manager, for example creating templates for newer version of apps, definitely keeps me engaged, when I find the time 😄

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago
    [–] Katzenmann@feddit.org 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    You're using the meme wrong. The "at home" needs to be worse than the "mom can we get?"

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

    I know, it was just play on Void 😊.

    [–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

    I have enough void inside me already

    [–] Cort@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Was I supposed to be paying for arch this whole time?

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

    Oh, you paid for it, don't worry.

    [–] brap@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

    How dare you.

    [–] ngn@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    the only thing void has over arch is more architecture support (which is kinda ironic)

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    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Haha now I kinda feel like this is Endeavour. I'm really liking Endeavour! It feels like Arch but just a bit smoother of an approachability curve. Lovely community, too.

    I should mess with Void sometime. 🤔

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

    It's more like Arch than Endeavour though, just a heads up. Very little GUI things, especially the installer and all that. Well, the installed is TUI, so It's not that hard to be honest.

    [–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Could someone remind me what the appeal behind Void is exactly?

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Rolling release and stable. And no systemd... not by choice though, they're not purists, you just can't build it for musl.

    [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Musl and stable is one worst word combinations there is. I still have nighmares from broken packages under alpine that worked just fine under normal distro. It took us like a week to find the problem. Bad times.

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Alpine is an advanced user distro. I'm sure there are workarounds for the broken stuff.

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

    It's not their official policy, but my personal philosophy with alpine goes like this:

    1. If it doesn't work with musl/busybox, find an alternative that does
    2. If I can't find an alternative, then I patch it myself
    3. If I don't have the time/skill to patch it myself, then I throw it into a container that has glibc/gnu coreutils
    [–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

    no systemd IIRC.

    [–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Yes. Independent, rolling, stable.

    [–] DoeJohn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

    Yep, believe it or not, it's probably the most stable rolling release distro out there. I've used it for the past 4, 5 years or so, not once has it broken.

    There are 2 main reasons why this is. One, they don't roll with bleeding edge, they opt for stable, so cutting edge is more like it. And two, they don't have something like the AUR. There is only the main repo and that's it. The approval process for new packages is quite strict and it has to fulfil a lot of requirements, among which the software has to not just build, but also run on i686, x86_64, ARMv5/6/7 and ARM64. And not just on glibc, but also on musl. So basically, all that, times 2. Sometimes it may take up to a year to get new packages approved by the maintainers, depending on how big the package is and how integrated in the system it is.

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    [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Alpine is better. It's more minimal.

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah, but no glibc 🤷... some of us need it, and I can't chroot all the time.

    [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    But it's very minimal with a very small attack surface by default (because of Musl, glibc is bloated).

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    There is a busybox/musl version of Void as well, but iirc it's only for use in containers, not a bootable distro. But yeah alpine is also great, I love it as well.

    [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

    Plus it's the base for the best mobile distribution (imo, obviously) PostmarketOS

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