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This blog post by Ploum, who was part of the original XMPP efforts long ago, describes how Google killed one great federated service, which shows why the Fediverse must not give Meta the chance

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[–] ssorbom@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I was interested until he brought up that matrix was just a reinvention of an existing idea. no, xmpp cannot do everything that matrix can. have you ever tried getting consistency of history in xmpp? it's absolute garbage. his warnings about the fediverse are on point though. I do wonder if matrix will end up suffering the same fate when Reddit offers to federate with them. The matrix protocol is already brittle as it is, and compatibility even between good faith implementations of existing servers is hard.

[–] Machefi@szmer.info 4 points 1 year ago

The main thing I understood is that once Meta joins the Fediverse we need to stand up for protecting our protocol standards, is that correct?

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Really good read. I was not aware of the history in such details, but the argument is very compelling.

Great post by Ploum. Really sheds some light on how vicious these things can be and how federation will have to really push for openness and freedom.

[–] Five@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Can anyone with expertise explain the structural difference between Matrix and XMPP?

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

The X in Xmpp is for extensible. I find issue that a protocol that is supposed to be extensible was killed by being extended.

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