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Have seen a few posts popping up recently just straight up calling fo violence barely disguised as memes

Had thought Lemmy had chilled out a bit on that kinda thing for a while but seems to be coming back now

Anyone else noticing the same or just me?

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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 99 points 2 weeks ago

Can you think of anything that happened in the past month or so, perhaps involving US politics, that might have a tendency to radicalize people?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Its not really just Lemmy tho. Its everywhere.

People are just mad these days and that event in NYC ignited their anger they always had.

I think most people are more like saying "LOL" at what happened rather than "Lets kill [insert person name here]". I mean, nobody really asked for it, nobody gave the pepetrator the "okay" to do it, the person just did it. People aren't sympathetic because the dead person wasn't such a nice person.

Remember how people celebrated Bin Laden's death, this is like that. Different nationality, same killer mindset that they had in common.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago

bin laden didn't kill nearly as many americans as united health has

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

how people celebrated Bin Laden’s death

Ouch, some deep introspection is required if you get to a point in life where you, being an insurance CEO and being killed lead to the same kind of mob reactions as Bin Laden's death.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To be honest, the UHC CEO was probably responsible for more loss of life than Al-Qaeda was.

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I think most people are more like saying “LOL” at what happened rather than “Lets kill [insert person name here]”.

I've definitely seen quite a few memes that were like "Here are the names and faces of a few other health insurance CEOs. No particular reason ;)". But yeah it's probably not most.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

Count me in the second category. I’ve got a mental list of people I’d love to see offed in similar fashion. I’d do it myself but I have to care for my mother.

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fair I'm not really on any other forums anymore and I haven't heard anything about this CEO death until just now

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fascinating. Are you in the US?

I could not have avoided knowing about it. Even if I were to stay off the internet completely, it has been a major conversation topic in real life with friends and family. My work has BCBS health insurance coverage so when they were dropping coverage for anesthesia, all casual conversations at work with colleagues were about it too. I couldn't have avoided it if I actively tried.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not in the US no, so far nobody has mentioned it in conversation

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First shots in defense of the working class have been fired in the class war and most of us are surprised it took this long.

As someone who’s father was killed by health insurance companies, the assassination of the UHC CEO brings out some really passionate bloodthirsty emotions in me. And I’m just one person….

The assassin is my hero. Too bad if it hurts your sensibilities. Fuck him, fuck his family, no sympathy. I hope there are many copycats, there are many deserving targets.

Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent revolution inevitable. They have it coming.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry to hear about your father. There's maybe nothing more horrific in Western society than the way we fund the lavish lifestyles of mass murderers like Brian Thompson.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

And I have pearl clutchers whining about how my support for violence is wrong.

It’s self defense. The justice system doesn’t work against the rich so vigilantism it is.

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[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it's awesome, need more of it

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 weeks ago

Is Lemmy getting more bootlicker lately?

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Slaves cheering when a slave owner dies seems pretty normal, no?

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[–] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago
[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago

what is the opposite of "radical", in your opinion, and was lemmy like that before "lately"?

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

god willing

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The recent killing of the UHC CEO seems to have pushed all the right buttons in activating people's bloodlust and mob mentality. But I actually looked at some of the threads on reddit after being a bit taken aback by the reaction on Lemmy, and redditors were being just as violent. So I don't think it's Lemmy getting more radical, it's just the flavor of the week right now to celebrate violence, as long as it's against the bad guys.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The main doctor Reddit had to delete a whole thread due to bloodlust.

We are rampant for a revolution. Everyone is united in how pissed they are over health insurance. We need to seize this moment.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A successful revolution takes a whole lot more than bloodlust and directionless anger. The emotion is there, but there is no revolutionary framework or ideology in place to direct that feeling towards meaningful change. This seeming "unity" is ephemeral, it'll be forgotten as soon as the next media cycle starts.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

No it won’t. Kill people’s family and they’ll spend years thinking of ways to get revenge. Multiply that by millions. Multiply that by desperate economic conditions. I am one of the people who lost a parent to these ghouls, and I’ve had 13 years to think about it. This killing woke up some deep emotions that aren’t going to go away anytime soon.

We’ve been sitting on a powder keg for a while. It doesn’t take many people to start some shit - a few more assassinations and things will change fast.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When you see the entire justice system turning into a dry popcorn fart for the rich and powerful it does that to a society that can barely afford groceries.

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[–] Baku@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

I think in general there's just a lot of people getting to the end of their rope at the moment. This isn't just hatred directed at insurance companies (although that was certainly the catalyst to get it started), but I think it's also a reflection of growing agitation towards the upper class

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[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago

I say it's getting less radical when 20 years ago a country got invaded, a million killed, based on nothing but lies and no one bat an eye on any forum.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I think it's America that's getting more violent. You see the same thing on other platforms.

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

There is definitely a trend towards calling for death and violence against billionaires and other powerful figures that I've observed over a while.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes and no.

There are more calls for violence, yes.

But a lot of people on Lemmy have a lot of catching up to do in understanding the world, nuances and getting rid of outdated and harmful thinking stagnated by clinging onto certain ideologies and belief systems.

That would be way more 'radical' than just violence alone.

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