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[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Vendor lock-in, I don't think so.
Maybe on a local market.

[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

They are a major force in the Chinese market so maybe it might see some traction there, but otherwise, I still don't see a third mobile OS getting genuine market share.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Downside: closed source

Upside: microkernel

[–] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does a microkernel matter for anyone but nerds? Maybe companies that make variants of the OS?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

for normal users they get a improvement in security!

Microkernels by having a reduced risk surface provider better security, less vulnerabilities, and more compartmentalization. Programs simply have less privileges

Harmony OS is closed source, and run by a company in a country that has done some... flexible things with data security... but at least with a microkernel its less likely third parties will violate your security, only second parties here!

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Most malware doesn't target the kernel directly, so I don't think it will change anything, especially if Linux used with seccomp like in Android. For people who really cares about privacy proprietary OS with preinstalled spyware already is a nightmare.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I dunno, kinda doubt it.
I don't think most devs will be really thrilled on having to support another platform with a seemingly petty different SDK.
I think that not offering any type of Android compatibility, no matter how limited, will prove to be a mistake

Ah ha ha ha ha ha

No

[–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Vendor locked so no

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[–] unwaveringegg@endlesstalk.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Very very doubtful. As much as it would be nice to have another OS.

[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

First time I'm heading about this.

My take is that it'll become China's "iOS".

Android will still be around.

There will essentially be 3 competing OSes

iOS

Harmony OS

Android OS

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fella GrapheneOS is still android.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

yes...

aint harmonyos also android derivative? huawei or xiami?

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As far as I can tell by skimming Wikipedia, no. Its based on something called OpenHarmony, which itself was based on something called LiteOS Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenHarmony

Edit: Looks like HarmonyOS used to be based off of Android, but has transitioned to OpenHarmony extremely recently. "It replaces the OpenHarmony multi-kernel system with its own HarmonyOS microkernel at its core, removes all Android code and supports only apps in its native App format." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS

So while you would've been correct a few months ago, it appears this is no longer the case. I can see why my comment would've seemed stupid at first.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

aint harmonyos also android derivative?

Read the article before commenting guesses

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't click block slop that's likely is a tracking URL champ

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't recognize tracking URLs AND you comment without reading an article? That's something...

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -3 points 2 weeks ago

i don't care to check anymore. comment section is all i need.