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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Luckily, it seems to be disabled by default. At the moment.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unpopular opinion, I think they're doing it right as well as it can be at least. It's completely optional and doesn't seem to be intrusive.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago
[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah its not google chrome level which i'm thankful about.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm way more pissed about restarting my PC after an update and having Copilot installed without my permission.

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[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sigh. I'm glad to have switched to LibreWolf.

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I switched a while back before all the Ai and "privacy preserving" telemetry stuff.

Every update note I see for Firefox now just reinforces my decision.

[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

And I still can't convince it to stop caching the images because it does not follows the RFC.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago

I wonder if this can be removed at compile time, like Pocket.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't this there for a while, or just me.

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is since version 128 I think

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

I think 130

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't want it in Opera, don't want it in Firefox. I mean they can keep trying and I'll just keep on ignoring this shit :/

[–] davi@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hopefully, it'll be possible to opt out somehow.

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

as the screenshot shows, it is opt-in

[–] nu11@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand the hate. It's just a sidebar for the supported LLMs. Maybe I'm misunderstanding?

Yes, I would prefer Mozilla focus on the browser, but to me, this seems like it was done in an afternoon.

[–] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

It seems like common cynicism. Mozilla adds this feature, as not to yield major features to other browsers. Mozilla's lets you natively have lots of different AI solutions to pick from.

Not every feature is for everyone. Not every feature is done being improved on at release.

And in spite of popular opinions, organizations don't do just one thing and then do just the next thing and the thing after that. Organizations can and do focus on and prioritize many things at the same time.

And for people who are naysaying AI at every mention, it has a lot of great and fascinating uses, and if you think otherwise, you really should try them more. I've used it plenty for work and life. It's not going away, might as well do some nice things with it.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want my browser to be a browser. I don't want Pocket, I don't want AI, I don't want bullshit. There are plugins for that.

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that's the great thing: you don't have to use it

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 8 hours ago

But Firefox wastes time developing that instead of fixing 20 years-old bugs.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 107 points 2 days ago
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This happened ages ago, didn't it? Am I missing something new?

[–] 2kool4idkwhat@lemdro.id 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it did. That feature has been there at least since when Mozilla enabled "Firefox labs" section in settings by default a few months ago, and maybe even earlier than that

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, this month in particular....

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

True. ❤️

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago

Wow, great job Firefox. Thanks.

If I wanted unreliable bullshit like AI, I'd use Chrome.

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Thing is, for your average user with no GPU and whp never thinks about RAM, running a local LLM is intimidating. But it shouldn't be. Any system with an integrated GPU, and the more RAM the better, can run simple models locally.

The not so dirty secret is that ChatGPT 3 vs 4 isn't that big a difference, and neither are leaps and bounds ahead of the publically available models for about 99% of tasks. For that 1% people will ooh and aah over it, but 99% of use cases are only seeing marginal gains on 4o.

And the simplified models that run "only" 95% as well? They can use 90% fewer resources give pretty much identical answers outside of hyperspecific use cases.

Running a a "smol" model as some are called, gets you all the bang for none of the buck, and your data stays on your system and never leaves.

I've been yelling from the rooftops to some stupid corporate types that once the model is trained, it's trained. Unless you are training models yourself, there is no need for the massive AI clusters, just for the model. Run it local on your hardware at a fraction of the cost.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's the tragedy with this new feature: they fast-tracked this past more popular requests, sticking it into Release Firefox.

But they only rushed the part that connects to third parties. There was also a "localhost" option which was originally alongside the Big Five corporate offerings, but Mozilla ultimately decided to bury that one inside of the about:config settings.

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[–] sinceasdf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Idk I noticed pretty significant differences between models of various sizes. I mean there are lots of metrics on this

https://www.vellum.ai/llm-leaderboard

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I mean, if you're going to do it, where's the Ollama love?

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[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago

That was there before 133, don’t remember the exact release that added it.

[–] celeste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If they do it in a privacy-preseeving way, this could help them get back market share which will generally benefit an open internet.

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I will say, the Le Chat provider is pretty decent. You really can use it more natural language. "Rewrite it with a better rhyme scheme" "remove the last line" and it just got it.

Why no local option though? Why no anonmysing option?

Edit: There is a right click option which does make this officially actually useful for me now (summarize this!).

Other models do have RAG options and Mist real supports making agents with specified documentation too to at least fine tune too (not as good as full grounding though IMHO)

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for nothing, Mozilla.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They should raise the ceo's pay some more to celebrate.

[–] piracysails@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And fire a few employees just cause.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They better not decide to enable it by default.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

it's not enabled by default ... it's opt out by default

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think that means that it's opt-in.

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[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I wish I had telemetry on such features.

I really doubt a significant number of people use AI chatbots often enough that having it in a dedicated sidebar is worth it.

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[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 9 points 2 days ago

Now add support for GPT4All and everyone is happy again.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

why a fucking chatbot? translate a page better for me you fucking losers, all the translation options suck for privacy outside of specifically trained local AIs. this is the BEST use case for a small local LLM yet mozilla with all its brains and resources couldnt rub two neurons together for this.

or they could do character prediction on your typing to make typing faster. just some legit examples, why waste resources to build a chat ai into my browser when i can just open a website???

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