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I live in a relatively warm part of Canada and let me tell you a sweater alone is not enough π
There are plenty of places in the USA Midwest and Europe that get colder.
Guys if you keep heating your houses to 15Β°C or more you're the cause for climate change and the corporations can't blow petawatts on their AI data centers c'mon don't be so selfish
Both uses are a problem, one is just more unnecessary than the other.
My flat grows mold if I leave it under 18C for too long and my landlord doesn't care π₯΄
Mmmm, mold.
Iβm right with you on that though. Small basement apartment with a concrete floor that was built in the 1930s. Yep. Mold.
True, but also let's not just let ourself dash toward suicide. Society is not meant to sustain nudism in the middle of winter 24/7.
come to florida! hehe
Just wear a sweater bro
Yeah how else will ChatGPT tell you how to distribute (a^2 +b^2)(c^2+d^2)? /s
I'm sorry, me heaters are set to 16Β°C π’
In my defence they don't go any lower than that for some reason
Some reason being that if you don't maintain a certain temperature in your house you'll get mildew problems.
I wish I had control of the thermostat. It would be 60Β° year round.
Edit: Forgot Europe exists 60Β°F = 15.56Β°C
Also does any one still call it centigrade?
Bro said Europe as if the rest of the world uses shitty ass Fahrenheit
That would be freezing to me, but we live in a place that rarely dips much below freezing and gets super hot with high humidity. Humidity + cold also sucks. We were like 23 today (70something) and have a number of days over 35 in the summer (with 90+ % humidity). I work outside in that heat so I'm much more acclimated to that
I've heard some people say it in England but dunno if it's actually common there. Was only a tourist.
It's gonna get down to -30Β°C this week, I'll turn the heat off and just throw on the good ol' toque and a sweater and report back, assuming I still have fingers.
Same here.
But there is middle-ground here. My wife came from a very temperate country. She wants the thermostat set at like, 26.
I'd be happy to have it at 17 and wear sleeves indoors. 9 degrees thermostat difference makes a hell of a dent in the utility bill.
I grew up in cold but have spent almost two decades in humid subtropical. If it's 20ish outside, I usually won't turn on the heat, but 23 if it gets any colder (though that's in part because old japanese house loses heat like crazy. 21 is good for me)
26?! Hell, I can't even sleep if it's above like 20C in my room. My bedroom right now is 10C (vents blocked to keep it extra cold) and that's about the perfect sleeping temp. I'd go that cold in the rest of the house too but my pet snake probably wouldn't appreciate it.
snake tax snake tax snake tax!!
Don't you get nightmares, sleeping in the cold like that?
Agreed. Funnily I'm from a more temperature country and she's from where I'm at now, but she's the one that is always cold and wants to keep it at ~22. I ain't gonna argue considering she pays the electricity bill, though.
Americans should start building their houses like Europeans. Made from brick, mortar and good insulation. Your houses are made from wood and paper.
looks around at countless houses made from wood I guess northern Sweden, which gets below -30Β°c every year, lost its European status.
Earthquakes would say otherwise for at least part of the US. Also, without full-time mechanical ventilation, that would be misery in a lot of the US. The climate is also different to some places in Europe and varies hugely on US region
Nothing wrong with wood as a construction material. The key factor is the insulation.
You do realize that there's insulation in those walls right. That's the whole point of wood frame construction; you stuff the gaps between studs full of several inches of insulation. Besides, most of a homes heat loss isn't through the walls anyways. It's through any openings in those walls (windows, doors, etc) and through the roof.
Isn't the whole point of woodframe construction to use wood?
Europeans still have insulation in the wall cavity.
Such ignorant shit
./confidentlyincorrect
nobody can afford that here lol
Stop with this nonsense. This is the financial illiteracy that is being pointed out how Democrats lost because of the "economy".
Housing purchasing went up in price for a short while but stopped increasing so rapidly. More Gen Z owns their home by 30 than millennials. The rate is on par with gen x.
Most people in this country can afford a house and the upper third can afford very very nice houses.
I have to turn on the heater for my cats or else I'll suffer the consequences.
Never mind things like water, pets, children...
Yeah, nah, I'm on the side of the government paying for utilities. Human right to electricity. Figure out a system to prevent overuse, but everyone deserves to have heating and cooling when needed.
That said, definitely wear a sweater in the winter if you can. Acclimate to the season and you'll hate going outside a lot less, and need less heating in the winter. I typically don't heat most of my home in the winter (I don't have central heating). I just use a space heater in whatever room I'm in, and move it to the next room with me, and wear warm clothes. I'm in Tennessee, which routinely gets well below freezing in the winter. Not ideal, but it works
Figure out a system to prevent overuse
If we're going down the "government should pay for it" route, then a good solution would be subsidizing thermal insulation. It's a big investment upfront, but will save a lot of money for both homeowners and the government in the future. Not to mention the obvious ecological benefits.
I feel like it already is. Just not always from the government. I put three pallets worth of insulation into my attic(~$1500) and between the rebates from the gas and power company it ended up costing me like $350. I did have to front that cost though and the paperwork was kind of a pain. Had to draw a scaled picture of my house with the part of the living area covered with insulation on graph paper. They donβt pay for over the garage.
Just looked at what I bought again and insulation has gone way up in price. Itβs close to $2500 now. No idea if the rebates also went up but I kind of doubt it.
If a sweaters enough you must live in a warm ass place.
God, I recall when we lost power for a week in the middle of a freeze, it was so cold that my multiple blankets weren't enough to keep me warm when trying to sleep. I had to break out a nasty comforter that I've got that doesn't breathe at all and gets real sweaty during normal weather. Worked well to lock in the heat.
OK, OP... where do you live that a sweater is "enough"?
Denver, CO checking in and I'll take my central heat, thanks.