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Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux's permission prompts

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[–] jonesy@aussie.zone 11 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

Just installed Canary on my system to test this, and while it's a little janky and the hardware acceleration seems to stop other apps using the GPU at the same time this is still good enough I think I can finally move to Linux as my main OS. I assume this will get polished further in the future. Great stuff though.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 11 hours ago

About fucking time

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 hours ago

Too late for those Nimrods.
Just use vencord or something that worked for ages.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 136 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (7 children)

I was almost convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it's been broken so long. Like, years long.

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn't have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken. With steam working so well on Linux now, broken discord streaming without actual working audio share was one of the last things that posed a hurdle for gamers ditching Windows.

(In the meantime, thank you Vesktop for your service <3)

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You give them too much credit. It's just shitty, that's it.

Discord is pretty much broken on all platform. It always was. There's just no real alternative unfortunately.

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Lets create an alternative.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I'm all for it tho I have no idea how to grab the folk's attention

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[–] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken.

Tech companies are fully capable of being lazy for free. Fixing this takes dev time from other work that brings Discord money so doing this costs them, especially considering that Linux userbase must be rather tiny. 99% of software companies don't give a shit about making quality product and will always try their hardest to do as little work as possible while making as much money as possible. If fixing a bug will cost them more than potential profits from making it work then they won't fix it.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

You're right of course, it's definitely down to simple lack of incentive, rather than some kind of conspiracy. But the conspiracy was a fun shower thought! :)

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 56 points 15 hours ago

I saw something from a discord dev (can't find it, so grain of salt) about how there was interest recently to do it, but they'd have to work on other stuff that affected everyone first, and they'd probably get it done by q4 2024, guess they were right.

I think before then the whole linux graphics and audio space hadn't really stabilized enough for them to be interested.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 25 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it's been broken so long. Like, years long.

Heh. There's a ticket with Splunk. It's a simple request: do the 30 sec of work to let us install your software rpm from a proper yum repo.

They can't figure out how.

They won't ask.

It's 12 years old now.

The ticket for them to do a trivial exercise with tools twice as old, is now a tween. It can ride the bus on its own. I think it can get a Facebook account. Maybe.

We should get one for it.

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[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 8 points 15 hours ago

It was 100% because the existing Electron version they were using was ancient, a giant pain in the ass to update, and represents exactly zero revenue for them so they hadn't bothered putting anyone on fixing it. Every tech company has the ticking time bomb in the corner like that.

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[–] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 12 hours ago
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

now fix push to talk which is arguable far more important

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How would they implement this? I'm curious to know.

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[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 77 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

And yes, vesktop did it first, but discord's version is quite a bit more polished

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Vesktop still allows you to choose a single audio output, Discord's implementation seems to share system audio of all running apps, and doesn't let you choose the specific application.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

As far as I'm aware, Vesktop also allows you to share at 60fps, not just at 720, but up to 1440 at no charge. Can't wait for Vesktop to continue being ahead of the curve

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Wait how? Does it only share with other vesktop users?

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Nope, any discord lobby afaik

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 hours ago

Can confirm! I screen share all the tile and I take advantage of this. Love Vesktop ✨

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 24 points 17 hours ago

Finally I can go back to having people at 200% 😍

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Great! Now I just need global shortcuts.

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 43 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Oh my fuck, finally. Good lord Discord, only took you eons to get that working with Wayland after you broke it.

I get that there's other things like Discord out there, but nothing works like Discord.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I get that there’s other things like Discord out there, but nothing works like Discord.

There's plenty of free alternatives that works much better than discord

https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/

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[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yay I can finally uninstall Vesktop

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[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Did they also finally fix the AFK detection on Wayland?

[–] russjr08@bitforged.space 9 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not sure if this is actually possible - as far as I know, applications can't track key presses/mouse movement when their associated window isn't in focus. It'd be great if they just gave the option to disable the AFK detection since it doesn't work...

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What happens now in afk detection? I never noticed it.

[–] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Haven't used it in a while but from what I remember it always puts you in idle if you do something else and only back to online if you do something in Discord itself, as expected from the Wayland limitation.

It could be implemented with the ext-idle-notify-v1 protocol.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago

In my case it refused to ever mark me as idle, which meant I never got any notifications on mobile...

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I like their UX, the button doesn't say "Share screen" but "Make Selection". On Element my dad every time has such a hard time to share the screen because even though he did it already a hundred times, he presses the share screen button and then waits, without choosing which window or screen to share.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 15 points 17 hours ago

you first click the "share screen" button, then it asks if you want to share a device, screen or window, then it shows you that screen, that summons a permission prompt tailored to what you selected recently.

I agree it's quite nice

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)
[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

also works, although it says audio "may not work in certain instances"

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[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Audio sharing works, but appears to not allow selection of a specific audio stream, when I tested it just then it appears to share system audio. Vesktop still allows you to choose a specific stream. Still, this is a huge improvement over not working at all, and the "Entire Desktop" (3 screens) works, as well as "select region" sharing!

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

For me audio sharing doesnt work at all haha

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)
[–] simonced@lemmy.one 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Does that works for Wayland or X? or both?
Quite nice feature indeed.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 13 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

both, i mentioned that in the body text

[–] simple@lemm.ee 15 points 16 hours ago

Oh my god, it's happening!

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Finally. I had it working after a bunch of workarounds recently, but it was not really stable.

Always remember, this is what we all deserve for using closed source apps.

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