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Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux's permission prompts

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[–] EuCaue@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Finally! =D

[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago

Took them long enough

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

Finally, Tho i dont use the desktop app anymore. (Hint electron)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

But still doesn't accept my legitimate phone number, which is mandatory now.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Only in servers that enabled that verification. Its a server setting

[–] sntx@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sent by me:

Dear Discord Privacy Team!

I'm writing to you to inform you that your platform (mobile, desktop, browser) can enforce the user to verify their account with a phone number, after the user has changed their E-Mail adress. This is a serios privacy problem! I'd like you to verify that you don't intend on providing other (more privacy friendly) means of account verification apart from providing the phone number. I suddenly cannot use my Discord account due to this and I object to providing a phone number.

Kind regards, ~sntx

Their answer:

Discord Privacy Team (Discord Support)

Hi there,

Thanks for reaching out to us. Unfortunately, we aren't able to assist you here. This channel is reserved for privacy questions and requests.

It looks like this is a question for our Customer Support team. We recommend that you resubmit your request and choose the appropriate reporting option. You can do so here: [...].

In the meantime you can check out our Help Center for more info on everything Discord.

We appreciate your understanding.

Sincerely, Discord Privacy Team

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

But its a server setting to need phone verification. Im on a ton of servers and never provided them my phone number. One server changed access rights manually for my username because i refused to give discord my phone number when they enabled the verification requirement haha.
Also, their response is terrible haha

[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 30 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (3 children)
[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago

Centralized social media. Poison of the masses. If they control the pullpit, they control the congregation. Tale as old as time.

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago

The founder's shady history with OpenFeint, their entire privacy policy and shit like this, take your pick. Wikipedia also has an entire section dedicated to Discord's controversies. No matter how you look at it, Discord has a great many shortcomings.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] donuts@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

These articles are very old and not super relevant any more. Sources of 2018 and 2019, while a lot has changed over the years.

I'm not here to "defend" Discord and pretend it's all gravy, but if you want to make a compelling argument, I think it's a good idea to stick to current, factual information.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

These articles are very old and not super relevant any more. Sources of 2018 and 2019, while a lot has changed over the years.

Did you even read them? They changed for worst all the points remain.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Which got worse? Feel free to show me an example. I'll try to investigate and find out its merits.

It must be said that that site also considers browsers like Firefox and Vivaldi to be at a high level of being spyware. I think it's important to understand that Discord doesn't do things much differently than other platforms, other than not having any 3rd party ads.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You sound exactly like a bad actor. If you open and read the website you would know why Firefox it's listed

https://cadence.moe/blog/2020-06-06-why-you-shouldnt-trust-discord

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You see a couple of orange lines. You think, well that's okay, it's up most of the time? This isn't helpful. Discord needs to be up all of the time if it wants me to take it seriously. I understand that writing code is hard, and I'm aware that I sound demanding here, but I just cannot adopt Discord for communicating if I cannot rely on it to be available when I need it now. If it's down for half an hour, that's not a long time in the big picture, but it's a long time in the moment when I have a message that I need to send right then.

(emphasis mine). Ah yes, another blog by a user that thinks everything revolves around their experience.

I would love to act in good faith, but you're not making it easy linking this drivel. Because I don't want to make you feel like I'm fishing for sources, let me expand some points in the original link to talk about:

Discord contains features which allow integration with other spyware platforms

Discord contains the opt-in spyware feature known as "social media integration." This allows you to sync your persistent user identity on Discord with your persistent user identity on other spyware platforms, such as Facebook and Twitter. In its privacy policy[1], Discord has confirmed that if you opt in to this spyware feature, Discord will obtain an undisclosed amount of access to information obtained about you by the spyware platforms that you choose to sync with.

Ah yes, very scary. Connecting your account with other platforms to show your profile.

Discord uses its process logging for advertising

That the process logging features of Discord are now being recorded on Discord's servers as a form of telemetry (spyware), and removes speculation about why this feature exists. It is clarified by Discord that this spyware feature is used for advertising to its users.[8] This means that Discord is recording the programs you have open to build a statistical model of what programs you might buy/license in the future.

The "advertising" in question:

We use certain information to personalize our services. This includes features like customizing your experience on our discovery surfaces, highlighting activity on Discord that may interest you, and surfacing Discord features and promotions from us and our partners that may be of interest to you. For example, we may use information about who you interact with to rank a Friend who you interact with often higher in the “Active Now” section of your Friends List.

Discord tries to force some users to give their Telephone numbers

Discord will lock users out of its service and will not allow them to continue using it without giving their phone number or contacting Discord support. This is especially true for TOR users. This kind of feature is designed to extract very personal information out of its users (phone numbers). The criteria for locking out users isn't known

Usually this is a server (community) - side setting, but Discord also forces it when they think you are a spammer or malicious actor. Pretending it's to collect phone number is a bit out there. Also, 2FA has been a thing since forever.

Lastly, there's probably the argument of selling our personal data:

We don’t sell your personal information. Our business is based on subscriptions and paid products, not from selling your personal information to third parties.

We make money from paid subscriptions and the sale of digital (and sometimes physical) goods, not from selling your personal information to third parties.

We do not sell the personal data of our users or share personal data for targeted advertising purposes.

No sale or “share” of personal information: The CCPA sets forth certain obligations for businesses that sell or “share” personal information. We do not sell or share the personal information of our users as defined in the CCPA.

This is a legal document that they will get in trouble for if they were lying. They've already been fined hundreds of thousands of euros for GDPR violations but that curiously did not include a fine for "took people's personal information and then sold them without consent whilst explicitly saying they didn't do that"

Discord further has no third party advertisements which they can use to "sell" your data by allowing those advertisements to target you.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 hours ago

This is past due, I use Vencord.

[–] PromptX@lemmy.zip 28 points 10 hours ago

That's about time.. I won't be uninstalling vesktop tho

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