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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 week ago

My guess is, the people who care didn’t stick around. As s result, quality went down.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only reason I'd recommend signal to anyone is that its one of the few encrypted apps that doesnt have awful onboarding. A boomer can figure it out.

[–] xtrapoletariat@beehaw.org 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What do you recommend?

If Signal was not simple, my family and friends would likely use Telegram or WhatsApp. Even switching to Signal required a number of (general) newspaper articles criticising the status quo. It's likely not optimal, but okayish and sharing opinions and holiday impressions feels a bit better.

Switching a service is a slow, difficult process and many contacts will not follow, given they would abandon other contacts among friends, family, parents at school, sports teams, ... (now, I'm here, using 4+ solutions).

If training or even curiosity for the technical process is required, very few people will follow. If it takes me (with strong IT background) more than 30 minutes to understand/implement, I may have a decent private solution, but I will feel quite lonely soon.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

the other decent options are matrix and simplex chat, and mayyyybe session. matrix seems to have the most users and kick to it right now. out of those options. but yeah youre not gonna get the average tech illiterate person to get on a more complicated alternative to discord, essentially

[–] OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net 10 points 6 days ago

Unsurprising behavior from a community where the coolest person is the one who can put on the biggest tin foil hat. I appreciate the privacy community here but I think the concept itself leads to users decrying anything as insecure just because it makes them feel more knowledgeable.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago

"Welcome to Reddit! A community where you can determine what the mood and biases of the mod(s) are so you can safely post without getting banned or comments deleted."

[–] DollarColonial@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago

I also got DMs asking why it's removed or if I got banned, + someone asking and saying in topic it's the 3rd in short time.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago

We love lemmy ❤️

[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i can agree on a few stuff, and can't on some others. I just choose the most private options aviable that still serve the purpose i use them for. Like if you can find something on Google Play, Aurora, F-droid, obviously, it is better to download from f-droid, but if you have a bit more time, it is even better to download from source or even compile it yourself. But it always upsets me when people ask for privacy tips when using ios or windows, like are you joking or what? ditch those lol. And obviously, as a gamer, i wouldn't use purist linux oses, like PureOS, because it can have serious issues with games. But i won't buy nvidia if i want to game on linux, when i can get amd with open-source drivers on distros like Garuda. So i think a reasonable privacy can't hurt anyone, but moving on just the next little step or going into the extremes are both not good ideas

[–] DollarColonial@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I can't recommend downloading from sources to normal people, and the problem is no, one step after step is better, as you can't have a perfect solution for privacy btw, but moving from one service to one service lets say in one day, week or maybe even month is not realistic. Its like recommending a password manager, great, but then saying theres immediat need to change all password... Like, technically true, but realisticly, bank and mail firsts, then step by step some passwords, without forgeting new accounts should have now strong passwords.

As I said, ie my girlfriend knowing Im interested into privacy tell me that she just installed and created a protonmail account and she used Drive a bit, if I just say thats useless because there need compartimentalization and Proton gave IP to police, thats fckd up

The most private, the most secure option isn't for everyone, first to threat model, second to personnal daily life

A person interested can still have Gafam apps, for some needs, required, but can limit the settings.

If you are a gamer, you mostly still need Windows computer (Linux got better and better, depends on games tho), then you can choose to say fck, or you can use it with limiting the stuff you can (turning off maximum settings you can, OsU10, etc.). Thats the same with iOS.. Most people wont buy right now a new phone because of privacy, but maybe the next in few months or in 2 years ; doesnt mean during this period you can't choose apps to use, turning off iOS features, etc..

For some projects I needed TikTok, I wrote myself a guide, to use it as anonymous as possible, to TikTok and to people, instead of using it raw, defaults

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