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I’m a 30 year old woman who’s only really played card and puzzle games on my phone. Im considering new hobbies. Is it worth trying to get into video games for the first time. Where would I even start.

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[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

... Yes?

Start wherever. Buy games with interesting covers or play free demos.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago

You are already a gamer!

I’m a 36 year old woman who grew up playing them with my dad. My sister is a year younger than me get than me. She grew out of it a bit but she still plays “cozy”, low to no pressure games. I like long role playing games with interesting stories.

If you want any recommendations or a new friend to play with, I’m here! I also know of several gaming groups for women.

I’d like to know more about what you’re interested to give better suggestions but here are a few that might pique your interest.

Balatro is a recently popular card game. You can play it on your phone or on a computer. It works sort of like poker, but you apply effects to the cards to multiply your score.

A Little To The Left is a puzzle game. You play the owner of a mischievous cat and your goal is to reorganize the messes that your cat made throughout the house, like sorting the mail, organizing a battery draw, displaying sea shells you collected etc

Unpacking is also a puzzle game. You literally unpack boxes in various rooms. Sometimes it’s hard to make everything fit. As you progress through each level, you learn about the main character’s life.

If you want something more traditional, Ori and the Blind Forest is absolutely beautiful. In that, you play as a small guardian spirit and you navigate through a forest solving puzzles, collecting items, and jumping between platforms (sorta like Mario).

My wife didn't typically game in the traditional sense, but games she's enjoyed in the past are the older Mario games, the Sims, and project zomboid (which she describes as the Sims but with zombies).

She's also got like 100 hours in power washing simulator and she's too scared to try Stardew valley because she knows it'll consume her life.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What gaming is like for a non-gamer

This guy had his non-gaming wife try different games, very enlightening for your purposes

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[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 days ago

I'm a 30-something woman myself. I've been gaming longer than I've had a phone. Here's my two cents:

You're already into videogames. Fuck what the haters say about mobile gaming not being """true""" gaming (whatever the heck that means), they're just sour they can't game whenever wherever without investing a ton of time. Then again, maybe I'm just mad because I've recently invested a ton of time into Youtube's playables.

If you want to get into PC or console gaming, I recommend starting off with popular E rated games in the genres you already know you like. Generally these games are more complex than mobile games, but this type will usually introduce difficulty curves to gradually transition you into their mechanics and complexity and teach you to be a master without having to look up training online.

If you want to branch out, start with genre-bending/-blending games. I'm personally a fan of puzzle-platformers, as those are my two favorite genres; while I'm not big on card games, they recently had an explosion in popularity, so there's a blend of just about every genre you could want.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago

Get a Switch Lite and go from there. If you already have a midrange PC with decent iGPU, download Steam and play an older but highly rated game.

Don’t spend too much before deciding if it is for you. Find the cheapest entry point.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 22 points 6 days ago

This is like asking if you should get into books or movies! The answer is absolutely! 💜 There are so so many games.

The genre "cozy game" is a pretty good place to start, I think. They focus more on the vibe than challenges.

Definitely stay away from games that use phrases like "souls like". Those are games that are trying to be intentionally difficult for the sake of being difficult.

A lot of this depends on what sort of console or computer you have access to. A lot of indie games are not very taxing and you can probably play them on your computer easily even if it isn't a gaming computer. Things like Stardew Valley and Spiritfarer come to mind.

[–] kokopelli@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

A lot of women I know who aren’t the typical “gamer” type really enjoy Stardew Valley. It’s a little farming game where you live in a town, foster relationships with the townspeople, and generally go about small town life. Very cute game, especially fun with friends.

Also Minecraft, it’s very open ended and there are many ways to play it.

As for how to start, an affordable laptop will run both of these fairly well, if you want Nintendo games you’ll probably have to get a Nintendo Switch.

Definitely make a Steam account though, you’ll find pretty much all the games you could want in one place there (Minecraft is separate).

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

This game recommendation thingy might be helpful: https://apps.quanticfoundry.com/surveys/start/gamerprofile/

In the profile you choose what you are looking for in a gaming experience - it doesn't matter if you don't know yet or need to make up some answers. There are questions like "How important is working towards a common goal with other players?"

It's a place to start anyway.

[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago

I'm 31 and I only really started playing games around 4 years ago, apart from playing on bootleg NES consoles or C64 as a kid.

It is worth it if you have fun doing it, and you probably will!

If you don’t know where to start, you probably still haven’t figure out what genres you'd be into.

You might like Steam Deck, an affordable console-like handheld PC, because:

  • It offers a wide variety of games from all generations, so if you want to experiment with different genres you can always find something for yourself - you can purchase a game on Steam store and if it’s not for you, just return it below 2h of gameplay
  • Very user friendly, easy to navigate for non-techies, despite being PC, for the most part it just works, great entry for folks with no prior experience with PC gaming
  • It's a handheld! Take it with you anywhere easily, play in bed, on couch, toilet, whatever. If you're used to playing on a phone, this might be appealing
  • you can still dock it as a regular PC and have mouse+keyboard+external screen if you want to try gaming this way
  • if you want to tinker to explore even further, you can emulate older consoles, play with 3rd party launchers, use it for other things than gaming, even replace the software completely - it is all possible

Other choices are perfectly valid like Nintendo Switch, Xbox or PS5, but they’re within their respective closed ecosystems. With Xbox and PS5 you’re also stuck with TV. Consoles have limited backwards compatibility, so for example Switch only supports games for Switch, PS5 supports games for PS5 and PS4, and it’s a bit better with Xbox iirc.

If you want Nintendo Switch (if games like Mario or Zelda are appealing to you), maybe wait a little bit as they’re cooking new generation for release soon-ish, and the current one is old and miserable in terms of performance.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'd say start with some of the most popular games, like Mario and Pokemon. Those are the two biggest video game franchises in the world, they're very accessible and even decades later still a ton of fun.

edit: FWIW, Nintendo is a problematic video game company and trying to destroy video game preservation of their games (and trying to prevent community-run video game competitions/tournaments of their games), but they still have made some of the best video games of all time.

[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

Yes. Start with Stardew Valley or Animal Crossing. From there, post threads asking for suggestions based on what you liked.

Just avoid games that cost a lot or have lots of micro transactions. Its like smoking cigarettes, better to not start.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 6 days ago

Worth getting into? Absolutely. It can be very cheap, too.

Where to start? That's the trick question. It will depend on whether you start with console or PC, the latter having a much more extensive catalogue of games, plus emulation of older systems.

My personal recommendation is getting a PC, it doesn't even need to be a gamer one, anything that isn't a piece of shit and was released in the past 4 or so years will do good for playing low end games and emulate anything up to N64 and possibly Dreamcast games (2003 and earlier). You can use a variety of console controllers on computer, so it's fine. Whe searching for ROMs, be sure to have uBlock Origin installed on your web browser.

If you have any friends, talk to them, see what they're playing or would recommend you to play. If you don't, download steam and download demos of games that look somewhat interesting to you. Check GOG as well, it tends to have some older PC games as well, plus demos and whatnot.

Try out a variety of genres. It's possible one game of a certain genre might not "click" with you, but another might.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Stardew Valley.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

If you like puzzle games I suggest trying portal. Portal 1 is inexpensive on Steam and playable on any modern PC including on Linux. It's low pressure, has some humor, not very violent, and you can restart from anywhere you like.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

I would highly recommend Portal and Portal 2 as primers for basically all your 3D games. Not only did Yahzee give The Orange Box in general a glowing review, but they teach you basic gaming mechanics almost intuitively.

[–] zovits@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My wife is a 30+ woman and she loved (among others) OneShot, World of Goo, and Final Fantasy XV.

OneShot is an atmospheric, story-based game with some puzzle elements and a lot of lovable characters. On the flip side, there's a lot of walking and it's easy to get lost. Nevertheless, there's a deep connection you as the player can build with the characters and the world they inhabit.

World of Goo is a physics-based building game, where you build bridges and towers out of cute sentient rubber-like balls, but beneath the solid physics, art and music there lies a deep social commentary too.

Final Fantasy XV is the most mainstream of these, but it is an entry into the FF games specifically designed for newcomers in mind. It follows four main and several supporting characters on a journey that starts as a road trip interspersed with beginner-friendly but still jaw-droppingly well rendered and animated combat and slowly but surely escalated to an epic catharsis.

[–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

World of goo... 100%. My wife and I have also played through this together and she enjoyed it. I also started a Baldurs Gate 3 playthrough with her making most of the decisions and me actually playing the game. That went pretty well, but it's a long ass game

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

I will say, as a 30 year old man I had the urge to start playing games because they just looked so good these days. I played a little here and there growing up, but all of my friends were gamers and I just wasn’t interested. When I got interested, I found a lot of fun and joy in it.

I’m still not your typical gamer. I find a few games I really love and I keep playing them over and over—great campaigns with great story telling and great characters and great graphics are so much of it. Since I started playing video games in like 2020, I’ve basically played four games, but two of them I’ve played a bunch of times (red dead redemption II and Cyberpunk).

Now I’m looking at Stalker 2 and I think that might be my next game I want to play to death. Gotta wait to hear how people feel about it though.

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Something else to consider is that it's a wonderful social window if you have friends that you don't get to hang out with very often due to geography and life.

I have a couple of good friends who are too far away after I moved to another area. We play games online and have a nice social hangout for a few hours each Saturday. Voice chatting works great.

It's fantastic to be able to regularly spend time with them.

[–] dmegatool@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago
[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago

Get a switch lite, yeah. I highly recommend playing star fox 64, Pokemon stadium, and the older legend of Zelda games. They are very good entry points into gaming and are all available via a Nintendo online membership.

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Can I go completely 180 and suggest programming as a hobby? If you want a hobby where you're in a computer. Then try learning to program little things. If you work on a computer then it'll make things easier for you in the future, it'll keep your brain sharp and teaches you problem solving.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

App games are video games so if you think playing on your phone is worth it, then playing on a dedicated gaming device should be worth it too.

You can start by choosing a platform. You can stick to mobile (Switch, Steam Deck), go console (Xbox, PS5, Switch), or a gaming PC.

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[–] lemuria@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Try out open-source games too, not just the big corporate games. Space Station 14, OpenTTD, Endless Sky, Naev, plenty of choices. Saw someone here rant about how the "videogames industry has become very rotten" and decided I'd point you to a non-rotten part of it.

[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Just wanted to recommend Luanti (formerly Minetest). Got the whole family playing at the same time eventually, and so I spun a server we can always join individually or together. It’s been really fun, didn’t think I’d like the genre, but it’s pretty zen when it needs to be, yet can have action and exploration too. Especially when trying to watch over and guard the little ones that get a little panicky at times and don’t have the best eye-hand coordination with a keyboard and a touchpad.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Lots of good advice here, but I would just add, start with your interests and work out from there. You like puzzle games? Portal is a great physics puzzle game, so you might like that. It's also a 3D platformer, so you'll find out if you like games with a lot of running and jumping. It's also technically a first-person shooter (not in the sense that you shoot enemies, but you do shoot a portal gun at walls), so if you don't like that aspect of the game, you'll know that FPSs aren't for you.

Doesn't have to be the type of gameplay either. You like designing things? Maybe try the Sims or Animal Crossing. Like horror movies? Maybe start with something simple but creepy, like Limbo. Detective stories? Something like Strange Horticulture might be up your alley.

The most important thing is to look around and see what catches your interest. Read some reviews, watch some gameplay footage, and find something that's right for you. Don't just say, "I'm going to do video games now," and buy a Call of Duty or Dark Souls because, "gamers," like them.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago

Steam for your PC will have a large library of free games you can try, and also paid games. If you like board or card games there is an application called table top simulator. This opens up access to traditional board games people have converted to PC--when you can't find it as a standalone game. Also a suggestion for standalone games if you are into cards:

  • Wingspan. It has a steep learning curve but hours of fun once you learn it.

  • Dominion. If you like this genre of game it can be a lot of fun.

  • Catan. if you have played Catan board game and enjoy it, you can also play online for free https://catanuniverse.com/en/game/

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Loads of great experiences and tons of diversity. I've had lot of great experiences through video games and it's never too late to start.

You could start with by looking through some video game threads and asking more specific question like "I'm new to video games, what are some games that you recommend that are not to hard to pick up" or something.

Recommend: Portal

I personally think you should give Portal a shot, it's a 3D puzzle game that you can run on any computer and is one of the best games of all time, it's also pretty funny on top of that.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you have a PC download steam and get half life 2 for free.

We all have our type of game. Try out a ton of new genres. Maybe you don't like shooters and you like simulators. Or maybe you like roguelikes. Or just platformers or building games. Don't stop trying new things till you find the genre that is right for you, then ask people for recommendations within that genre.

I had a comment earlier that had a bunch of.free games, I will try to post links later.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago

If you're unsure, buy a nice used ps4 with some games for dirt cheap to see if you like it. If you do, I suggest eventually moving forward with the PC route. Either a steam deck or a laptop and an Xbox controller. If you know you're liking gaming you could go all out on a gaming desktop PC.

Consoles are nice, but a PC game library is compatible for decades of games, and you can buy them for a lot less $ most of the time.

[–] ex_06@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Games can be one of the nice forms of entertainment like tv series or films, so i'd say yes.

Just try to look for really good games, like zelda breath of the wild, bioshock infinite, twelve minutes, sayonara wild hearts and so on. No online games, no infinite games, no games that are more like a job than a game (where you have to grind for everything) and so on. Games that let you enjoy the gameplay, the art and the story without making you feel like ''oh i have to login or i lose the fit and i have to get the daily rewards and bla bla bla''.

[–] dmegatool@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Good advice. Solo player games where you actually buy them is usually a safe bet. If it's free, they'll want your money later or make it an impossible grind. It's a bit of the same on the mobile side so OP is probably aware.

You can make some searches about good games for new comers because of all the games I'm currently playing, none would be a good start.

Done recently that could work :

Baldur's Gate 3. It's turn by turn so not reliant on mechanical skills. Can be played on concoles or pc with keyboard or controller. The story is so amazing. The acting, the branching, the choices... Loved it.

Frostpunk. Game where you try to save people gathered around a generator cause the earth is now ice cold. You manage ressources and tech to meet people expectations. They'll have demands but you can't say yes to everything. Hard choice. Can be kinda hard but you just start over the scenario with the knowledge you just got. It's mostly just figuring things out...

Skyrim? I liked the story / setting. I don't know if that aged alright or if there's something better in the same genre that could be welcoming. I remember that it wasn't particularly hard. On easy it should be more focused on the story / immersion.

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[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago

IMHO it's worth getting into games because they are a mainstream form of entertainment these days (just like movies) and there are incredibly well made games and all sorts of genres, so that everyone can find something. It's also a fun hobby, at least as long as you play either with friends, or singleplayer, or a multiplayer game with a non-toxic community. Stay away from popular e-sports titles, they're usually filled with toxic teenagers.

If you like puzzle games, there are some great ones, for example Portal 1+2 or The Talos Principle 1+2 are probably the most polished ones out there, these are AAA games made by big studios, who don't usually do puzzle games as they're somewhat niche but there are some exceptions thankfully. Portal 2 is the highest ranked game of all time on Steam (I think it's deserved).

There are also tons of great indie puzzle games out there, of course.

Somewhat related to puzzle games are "point and click" adventure games. That genre was very popular in the 80s and 90s, now it's also rather niche, but still some great ones are being developed all the time. Adventure games are (also) about story-telling and solving many puzzles to advance in the game. You usually find lots of items in those and have to combine them in various ways and interact with the game world and its characters to solve puzzles and advance the story. That's maybe the key difference between those and more focussed puzzle games where it's more about the puzzles, less about item combinations and character dialogs. But adventures can also contain quite challenging puzzles none the less.

Genres are hard to distinguish these days because so many games are a blend of different genres. Anyway, you probably want to stay away from games tagged with "action" or "e-sports" and primarily look for "adventure", "puzzle" or "casual" tags.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

I got my 75 year old father into video games.

With him, I started by getting him an xbox and an xbox live account (which allows playing multiplayer games online).

We play World of Tanks now together quite a bit.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Oh, there are so many kinds!

If you have a PC, why don't you check out some free-to-play games on Stream? Or even a couple demos to see what you may like. I wouldn't go straight into getting major equipment until you know a little more about what you like.

My grandma has been playing video games since before I was born. Her tastes have changed as she's gotten older, but there's absolutely something for everyone.

If you're 100% a beginner, I may even go a step back to some flash games. Just to get used to moving around (if not using a controller) and some of the more common UI. There's also a interesting series on YouTube called "gaming for non gamers" about a man and his wife who is trying out different genres. He goes over some things she misses just because she's not used to it since some mechanics they just assume you know these days.

And be easy in yourself! A new hobby always has some rough points. There will be bad games, matches, complete wastes of time. But there will be some truly remarks gems in there. Good luck!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

What sort of experience are you interested in? Something challenging and competitive would have you looking at very different games than something relaxing. I’d probably recommend stardew valley for a first game as it’s widely regarded and cozy but not without challenges

[–] Norgoroth@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Others have said it and I agree, Stardew Valley. Don't even need to buy a console.

Depending on your tolerance for low resolution graphics there are a literal lifetimes worth of games from NES to PS1 that can be emulated at better quality features available than the originals.

Evoquest 1-2 would be wild for you, the gameplay is designed to replicate the evolution from 8 bit to modern mobile gaming platforms. You'll get a chance to "catch up" on what games have been like with a coherent story tying it together.

If you want to get into multi-player stuff there are a lot of MMOs out there for mobile as well.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago
[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Very much so. As people have mentioned there’s a lot of good advice here. A Nintendo Switch might be worth checking out as a starting point. It’s handheld and can also connect to your TV to play on a larger screen.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

I would only recommend short games. Ive been gaming my whole life and basically quit recently, because I was playing grindy games that were so exhausting mentally.

Even great games like Terraria, Minecraft and dont starve leave me exhausted. Such huge time sinks. Ive moved onto hobbies that are much more satisfying.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Depends on what you want to achieve.

Video games are an easy way of losing yourself in a hobby for an afternoon. Can become addictive and you may lose the entire weekend.

Do you want games that focus on the social aspect and make friends? The story? Quick reactions and precise timing? Building something? Compete? Challenge yourself and improve (at ultimately a pointless task in a video game)? Simulate something accurately?

Before you start, as a gamer what do you non gamers do to spend your free time on anyway?

[–] JWayn596@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Absolutely!!

There are video games that work like card games, you'd love Balatro or Magic the Gathering.

If you like puzzles, Tetris is the perfect start, its the greatest puzzle game of all time. Tetris Effect and Tetris 99 are good recent games for that.

If you want to graduate from Puzzles to something more gamey, I'd recommend any Mario or Zelda game, and to develop a game mind, Metroid and metroid-like games are excellent.

Many games work like movies too, so if you like movies those are nice.

If you like books, there is a genre of game called a visual novel, (most of those are from Japan though, but many have an English option for text)

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

If you like puzzle games, Tetris effect is the greatest puzzle game I have ever played. I love horror games but Tetris is still fun as fuck. Never to old to get into gaming. Good luck!

[–] facelessbs@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

https://g.co/kgs/9BWGKjZ This for a game called belatro. I hear it has the rules of poker but it’s a very replayable game that every time you play it is new and different.

There are many games that have great stories and have game modes that make it very easy or hard to die so you can just really enjoy the story.

Switch is the most user friendly PlayStation has some of the best single player story based game X box is mainly for online play These are all just very general statements

Try a little bit of everything.

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