This is Furukawa. At today's Corporate Management Policy Briefing, we announced that Nintendo Switch software will also be playable on the successor to Nintendo Switch. Nintendo Switch Online will be available on the successor to Nintendo Switch as well. Further information about the successor to Nintendo Switch, including its compatibility with Nintendo Switch, will be announced at a later date.

Also, what a day to be casually posting this haha

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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Guess what Nintendo? Backwards compatibility has been confirmed using this EMULATOR, but it won't be played on your hardware anymore.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or it will be just a hardware revision instead of an actual new console.

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

As in I ain't buying anymore Nintendo consoles anyway so it doesn't matter what they release.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no, but that's illegal. Please don't. - love, Nintendo

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

I willing to bet the new console isn't significantly better hardware (which was already outdated when the Switch released), but just made to have a system the didn't already have emulators for it. The Switch emulators work perfectly (better than the console). The new one probably is focused specifically at preventing them from working and not being a better device for consumers.

[–] hopefull_cottonball@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 weeks ago

Announce the damn thing already, I'm not gonna buy it, but still...

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 21 points 2 weeks ago

But don't worry; well make you buy those legacy games in the shop again because fuck you pay me for the 4th time for a game from the 80s/90s. ~ abe Nintendo, probably

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If I had a nickel for every time I've heard this lie from a console manufacturer.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nintendo's got a pretty good track record.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

At the hardware level yes, software, yes as long as you don’t mind repaying for something you bought previously (potentially) and also don’t mind it being unavailable a few years later.

Source: had Wii U and switch.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago

The WiiU could run the entire Wii OS, so that's pretty good for backwards compatibility

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

You and the 3 other wii u owners had a rough time... that generation and move to switch was super weird.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While they've shut down online services for some of the older consoles, the backwards compatibility of the Xbox has always been excellent. I was playing Crimson Skies for the OG Xbox on my Series S a few weeks ago.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't do that with a 360 though.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

360 was absolutely backwards compatible with the OG Xbox.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh whaaat. Which consoles were hecking it up? I remember being mad.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It took about a year for it to get near-full compatibility with old games since it was emulated on the 360.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

The one I remember being really weird was the PS3.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Great now let me play my WWHD for WiiU on the switch. I'm waiting.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh my God I want it so bad.

I never owned my own copy of Wind Waker. I borrowed it when I was a kid from a friend and then later I played the Wii-U version from a different friend. Now that I'm like, an adult (more or less) with my own console, I want a copy for myself. And also I want to play it again. Man! Love that game!

[–] EveningPancakes@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

I got tired of waiting and played WWHD on a Steam Deck, ran flawlessly from start to end!

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hopefully it’ll play old carts and not just digital downloads 🤞

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like the language chosen was very specific for good reason.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Company who uses emulators while suing other emulators says what?

[–] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would love to say this is going to flop, but in the States people pay $1k for telephones and $600+ for consoles and then pay a monthly fee to then use those devices.

[–] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1k for phone ? Iphone pro max are now close to 2k …

[–] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

What??? I'm way out of the loop.

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

The pokemon teraleak sayd the switch 2 its basically a switch with better spects. Thqts Also why nintendo are taking down the emulators of switch now. Will be very easy to pirate switch 2 day one with thouse emulators.

[–] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm guessing this is from consumer pressure, until the Switch people definitely bought more physical copies of games and the minority of people got digital versions of DS/Wii-U games, but now so many people are using nintendo online and buying virtual copies people probably would not buy the next console if they had to buy the games they liked again.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, Nintendo have often been fairly good with back compatibility.

If the architecture and form factor of physical media isn't really changing, there's not a lot of need to block older games from running.

They're already on ARM, and there's not much better for mobile gaming and GPUs have been fairly similar for a long time now.

The more interesting question is: will the Switch games get a performance boost on Switch 2? And it's probably going to depend on the game. I'd imagine they'll test a lot of the more popular titles, and anything with issues just gets it disabled until the developer patches it. It'd be nice to play TotK at a decent frame rate. Impressive as it is, it certainly chugs.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

probably they just dont want to make new games and just want to keep expanding switch online, but still want to sell consoles as well

[–] aniki@lemmings.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck Nintendo

[–] gamerbro83@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Considering its going to just be the switch platform with better specs and maybe a new gimmick i don't see why this is a suprise.

[–] icecreamtaco@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because none of what you’ve said is actually confirmed yet

[–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net -1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

damn, why so much hate for Nintendo around here? they make legitimately good games...

I've been having an absolute blast playing the newest Mario party with my family, among the other games they offer.

[–] agelord@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because it's a shit company which seems to employ more lawyers than devs. Their lawyers routinely go after emulators, which hurts game preservation. They also go after fan projects a lot, which hurts the community.

[–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

as a major fan of classic video game emulation, I understand the conversation surrounding game preservation... but I draw the line at emulation of current gen games that are still actively being sold with hardware that you're still easily able to purchase.

I can understand why nintendo may want to destroy and threaten anything that hosts software through unauthorized channels as well, as the biggest source of their income is gaming hardware and software. anything that threatens their main source of income will have the book thrown at them, wouldnt you do the same?

Check this quote out. if you were running a business, do you not see where they are coming from? I feel like their hands are tied:

You Can Lose Your IP Rights if Not Enforced If you don’t take adequate or sufficient, reasonable means to protect and enforce your IP, then you run the risk of losing your IP rights. What is sufficient and reasonable action is not always clear; it depends on the situation. But, suffice it to say, if you know someone is using your IP without your authorization, you should promptly look into it to determine what, if anything, should and needs to be done so that you don’t lose one of your most important business assets – your valuable intellectual property.

https://www.varnumlaw.com/insights/enforce-your-intellectual-property-or-risk-losing-it/#:~:text=You%20Can%20Lose%20Your%20IP,of%20losing%20your%20IP%20rights.

[–] MagnyusG@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

what you're against is piracy.

piracy of current gen games is what you're against. As a consumer I should have the right to purchase a game (software) and do whatever the fuck I want with it, if I want to emulate Tears of the Kingdom because it runs and looks better on my computer than on my switch I should be allowed to do so. I purchased the console and the game, they've received my business, they should no longer have a say with what I do with my stuff.

Nintendo themselves use emulators for their products, there is nothing inherently wrong with emulation.

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[–] MagnyusG@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

No one is complaining about Nintendo's developers, they're complaining about Nintendo the company.

The company is garbage. Anti-consumer as hell, proactively fighting against video game preservation, bullying fans out of making passion projects, the list goes on.

Literally no one is mad at Nintendo for the games they make, they're infuriated because they make great games while the company shits on its own legacy.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My final straw was giving takedowns to assets used in Garry’s Mod. Those uses are generally associated to pro-Nintendo artistic messaging, and don’t go towards any game piracy.

I decided from there I was done with Nintendo, haven’t given them a dime since. They need to downsize their law department before I consider them again.

[–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

thats fair for you to feel that way

[–] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago

I would love to say this is going to flop, but in the States people pay $1k for telephones and $600+ for consoles and then pay a monthly fee to then use those devices.

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