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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 141 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

12ft.io almost never works for me tbh.

Also, appending before something is called prepending, similar to how a prefix after something is a suffix.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 70 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Archive.is is definitely not an alternative that people should use in this situation

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nor archive.ph, which appears to be the same site? Idk how that works. Definitely not a site anyone should go to, though.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

Nor archive.md nor archive.today, which appear to be run by the same rogue actors and serve the same content as archive.is and archive.ph. Beware.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 19 points 3 weeks ago

I'd like to prepend that this dude is correct.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I got my prependix taken out as a kid due to an infection.

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Yup. They went full OG AdBlock and got WaPo and other major publications to prevent them from working.

You can mimic what they did by adding the Google Crawler user agent to your browser but I just use archive.is

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 89 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Definitely don't use uBlock Origin's zapper mode to get rid of elements on the page that are blocking your view.

[–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 weeks ago

Disabling JavaScript through ublock origin also does the same (horrible) thing, frequently.

[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’ve used ublock for years and only recently discovered the zapper and it’s my new favorite thing on the internet

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I often forget YouTube shorts are a thing because i zapped them away.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

cocks the element zapper Say hello to my little friend!

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have been using inspect element to manually remove ads and other annoying things

Thanks for reminding me that i can just use ublock origin!

[–] don@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

^ This person adblocks

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[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 57 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And God forbid if someone uses archiving sites like archive.is!

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Truly awful. How will the news megacorp get its money? You wouldn't steal the information required for you to be aware of world events? Right?

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] Metostopholes@midwest.social 46 points 3 weeks ago

Back during prohibition in the US, there was a product called Vine-Glo that was a brick of grape concentrate. It came with a warning: "After dissolving the brick in a gallon of water, do not place the liquid in a jug away in the cupboard for twenty days, because then it would turn into wine."

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Doesn't NYT cut off most of the article now? I used to just be able to disable JS but that didn't work anymore last I checked.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

I use this extension and it lets me bypass pretty much every paywall including NYT's

[–] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Best extension along with uBlock Origins!

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[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yeah the article stub doesn't link to the article. It links to a login flow with the article id. If you go directly to the article you get redirected if you don't have a session.

It's incredibly easy to make an impossible to get around paywall. Porn has done it since the Internet existed.

In this very particular situation I'm glad most companies are lazy and stupid.

I don't particularly care if a company does pay only content. I think its legitimately ok. I hate companies that don't make you pay enough for the service to cover their costs thus leading to complete enshitifaction.

[–] ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought the issue was they wanted search engines to be able to see the content, but not non paying viewers? Hence slightly shitty paywalls.

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[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's incredibly easy to make an impossible to get around paywall.

Sure, but the easily-bypassed js method makes sure it’s still crawlable by search engines, which is a trade well worth making where I work. Doesn’t matter as much for porn sites since the title and description aren’t the content most people are there for, so you can expose them on the paywall page.

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I just hope nobody clicks the reader view button in the top right, it would be just terrible if they got an ad free, paywall free version of the site

[–] TedZanzibar@feddit.uk 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I do that a lot on my phone but keep forgetting it's a thing on desktop for some reason.

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[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

"Append...before", AKA "prepend"!

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wow, I feel like the most upvoted solutions here don't work, and meanwhile some obvious and widely known alternatives are being completely overlooked.

❌ Inspect Element - many modern sites don't even include the full article in the paywalled html, so this wouldn't work. Also sitting there and mousing over elements and deleting them one by one, is tedious, it's easy to accidentally delete an element that encloses the content you intended to keep, or to drive yourself crazy trying to figure out how elements are nested.

❌ Ublock Zapper - a similar to the above, won't work on stub articles, and just janky because you're manually zapping things

❌ Disabled JavaScript - Similar to the above, same problem because many articles are stubs anyway. And the HTML layers that block your view don't have to be done with JavaScript.

❌ Rapid copy and paste of the article to notepad or rapidly printing the screen - similar problem to the above, lots of places just post the stub of an article, and besides nobody should live their life this way rapidly trying to print screen or copy everything. If you're trying to do a quick copy you're going to grab all kinds of gobbledygunk from the page and probably have to manually filter it out.

❌ Reader Mode - Your browsers reader mode will be hit and miss because, again, many sites post stub articles, and it's possible the pay wall stuff will just get formatted into the reader mode along with an incomplete article.

βœ… Archive.is - works!

βœ… Pocket and Instapaper - amazingly, nobody has mentioned these even though they're probably the longest running (dating back to 2007-2008), possibly most widely known, and most consistent solutions that still work to this day. They keep their own local caches of articles, so it's not depending on the full content being visible on the page.

βœ… Other dedicated extensions - Dedicated browser extensions seem to work, but be careful what you're signing yourself up for.

πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ Brave - It works, but, it's a Chromium supported browser, so ultimately Google controls the destiny and can drive Chromium to incorporate fundamental frameworks supporting DRM and pushing their preferred web standards.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

12ft hardly works for anything for me anymore deeper-sadness

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately 12ft.io didn't keep up with the paywall arms race. It's too bad because it was one of those things that a lot of people knew about, many of whom may now just give up when it doesn't work even though there are other options out there.

As one example, there's now also the 13ft ladder: https://github.com/wasi-master/13ft It's like 12ft but self hosted. Sounds really good but I can't vouch for it yet.

I mostly would just archive a paywallrd page with archive.is (aka archive.today, archive.ph, etc.) and that worked great and also helped take traffic away from asshole sites that paywall content. Unfortunately, archive started requiring a cloud flare captcha when archiving a page. This is a deal breaker for me since captcha totally deanonymizes you and is used for tracking purposes and even to train AI. So it defeats a good chunk of the purpose of using an archive site.

Still, there's a good chance that someone else already archived the page you want to see, so putting the url in archive.is search can be enough to bypass the paywall.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I always break the ctrl key right off my keyboard when I get a new computer so I don't accidentally do this.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

Archive.ph >12ft.io

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

not NOT use firefox' reading mode.

[–] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Firefox has a button that shows up in the url that kind of turns the webpage into an e-book-esque view that pops up for most articles (especially Pay Wall)

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

DO NOT DISABLE JAVASCRIPT USING AN EXTENSIONS BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE TRACKING STOP WORKING AND BYPASS PAYWALLS.

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[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thank you so much! I already did it! (Smash Ctrl+P as fast as possible)

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely do not inspect elements and start deleting stuff! Leave them alone!

[–] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

If a website sends all the data of an article to you, it's yours. They can't take it away. There's no basis to make the argument anything is owed to the website at that point.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Many sites don't work like that and don't even load the content from the server before the paywall check.

But I have a trick that work 100% of the time. Just don't read those sites.

I get that journalism and entertainment magazines have workers and need to be paid BUT:

They were getting paid when I could pay a cheap physical newspaper if I want to read it and usually had those for free anyway. As you'll get newspapers on most public places and one single newspaper would serve a whole family. In my house we didn't really paid more than 4€ a month and got physical things that you could just keep. Now with digital distribution you own nothing and it is far more expensive. So... No. Also they get a ton of public money through institutional advertisement, so I'm already basically paying for them without getting access to their content.

So unless they are willing to change their model I'll just refuse to read them. I'm happier without their clickbaits anyway.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So unless they are willing to change their model I’ll just refuse to live.

Wait what

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[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

my browser always asks if I want the simplified view which always bypasses the paywall

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

And never, EVER disable JavaScript on that website and reload the page! Not even if your Ad blocker lets you selectively do it.

[–] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago

I just use Bypass Paywalls Clean, or failing that, archive.vn.

[–] attero@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 weeks ago

You would never use DuckDuckGo as your default search engine and then type !archiveis in front of your urlbar visiting a news site.

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