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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 78 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Literal decimation mostly funded by US tax dollars...

Everything else horrible about the genocide aside, it's fucked up we give billions a year in "aid" to a country with free higher education and universal healthcare while saying we can't afford it for ourselves because it would cost billions a year....

If Israel values that over their own "defense" why do we value Israel's "defense" more than that for our own citizen's well being?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because the actual issue for the US has never been the cost of it. It's that half the country thinks that The Poors(tm), themselves included, don't deserve anything other than scorn and disgust.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Uh, more like a saddening percentage of the country wants Israel to succeed for their rapture fantasies, and an another significant portion is unaware that’s their goal. They don’t care about Israel, really, only that their doomsday prophesies are fulfilled, so Jesus can come back. A few million brown people dying is just the price to be paid for paradise.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I meant the actual issue in not having education or healthcare. You're absolutely right about support of Israel being rooted in apocalyptic fantasies.

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I have a strange feeling these Christians aren't gonna be happy if jesus came back as brown as the people they're happily sacrificing in an attempt to get him

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pretty much.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The geopolitical excuse of "stabilizing the middle east" is fucking obliterated now. I swear if "people that matter" (read: not the general public, no one gives a shit about our opinion) don't start bringing this up I'm going to lose my mind...

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

It never made sense.

We replaced multiple democracies with competing religious extremists.

Then try to act like the area being destabilized is a coincidence.

We intentionally destabilized it because that made oil cheaper, the people we gave the power to knew if they didn't sell cheap oil. We'd just fucking do it again.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not about geopolitical stability. It's about maintaining access to oil. The petrol state above all else. Everybody else in the middle east hates us.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Absolutely, just the so called stability is the excuse they always give as to why we give them our blind and unconditional support with literally everything they do. Now that lie is useless I wonder what the next lie will be.

it’s fucked up we give billions a year in “aid” to a country with free higher education and universal healthcare while saying we can’t afford it for ourselves because it would cost billions a year…

Reminds me of the GOP criticizing Obama for inaction on Syria as compared to his successor, when they enabled his successor but handicapped Obama.

we can’t afford it for ourselves because it would cost billions a year…

Of course the US can afford do to and pay for all of it. It's just that the GOP is mostly ok with funding one of them and hates the idea of funding the other.

If Israel values that over their own “defense”

The answer of course is that Israel likely doesn't - but US largesse allows them to not worry about paying for both.

why do we value Israel’s “defense” more than that for our own citizen’s well being?

The GOP.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Lol one year? Nah fam this genicide has been going for way longer than that. The only difference between pre Oct 7 and post is zionest are more active with their atrocities.